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Rangerjr1 said:
You need 150-250mhz core advantage to beat a 290. Which is hard to do even on 780 Classifieds lol (Unless you're 8pack and got ln2)
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It was the same on 680 vs 7970. For whatever reason the Nvidia cards need higher core clocks to beat out AMD cards. However Nvidia cards normally clock a bit higher (core wise) than AMD cards so it kind of works out about even in the end. Though of course there are exceptions to the rule.
 
Rangerjr1 said:
Yea i know it favors Nvidia, but why? What makes Nvidia cards run better on it?
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nVidia can handle Tessellation far better than AMD because they have a tesselator on every SM, whereas AMD don't and they use a dual geometry engine on the top end cards. You would have thought they would haveimproved on that from the 6 series but they didn't. Maybe costs? Die size? Gawd knows.
 
LtMatt said:
It was the same on 680 vs 7970. For whatever reason the Nvidia cards need higher core clocks to beat out AMD cards. However Nvidia cards normally clock a bit higher (core wise) than AMD cards so it kind of works out about even in the end. Though of course there are exceptions to the rule.
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As far as i can see nvidia cards tend to do better out of the box straight into the rig. You gotta work with AMD cards to make them shine :). I.e waterblock. (Which is fine because AMD cards are usually cheaper!)
 
Tonester0011 said:
How is that possible? You've got, what? 2L of water in the loop, and only 2 rads for surface area. That cannot run passive for very long until the temps get out of control.

Unless you've got your case outside whilst the winds blowing :D
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Now that'd be an idea for me, as i live above the arctic circle on the coast of northern Norway!
 
Rangerjr1 said:
You need 150-250mhz core advantage to beat a 290. Which is hard to do even on 780 Classifieds lol (Unless you're 8pack and got ln2)

And my 290 really isnt running hot, its under water :D
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I'm happy I went for Nvidia in the end anyway :)

When I sold my 7950 for £312 just before Christmas I had a real dilemma between the 780 and the 290 but in the end I think I played it right.
 
Geeman1979 said:
Reversed roles, as the 7970's dominated over the 680's in those benchmarks. Why I've no idea.
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Slower RAM i think. Like a lot slower. Not like 512 vs 384 bus width. Both will land around 380-420GB/s total bandwidth while 384 vs 256 was ridiculous. The 256 hit like... 220GB/s on a good day? lol Whilst the 7970 would hit 350-380GB/s.
 
Tonester0011 said:
How is that possible? You've got, what? 2L of water in the loop, and only 2 rads for surface area. That cannot run passive for very long until the temps get out of control.

Unless you've got your case outside whilst the winds blowing :D
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I'm not sure tbh, I have to turn the top two fans on low when running CPU benches as the 2500k does kick out some heat but the 780 just doesn't. Admittedly after a while as the water warms up the temps do creep up but only slightly when chasing 3d mark benches... Unigine Heaven though does create a fair bit more heat for whatever reason.

I have my window open, at a guess it's probably 16-18*C in here ambient :D

<8 FPI on the rads? Perhaps the natural air flows through the case rather well.
 
I was running my Titan in games with the colder weather and fans were running very low (~400 rpm) and temps never went over 40c Prolonged would see them creep up of course but for a quick 30 minute game, that was it.

The 780 shouldn't run as hot a sa Titan either, so I can see temps being great this time of the year with a cooler room.
 
NoNameNoNumber said:
I'm not sure tbh, I have to turn the top two fans on low when running CPU benches as the 2500k does kick out some heat but the 780 just doesn't. Admittedly after a while as the water warms up the temps do creep up but only slightly when chasing 3d mark benches... Unigine Heaven though does create a fair bit more heat for whatever reason.

I have my window open, at a guess it's probably 16-18*C in here ambient :D

<8 FPI on the rads? Perhaps the natural air flows through the case rather well.
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When i get my QDCs ill throw my 7970 back in and take my 1st place back.

5-10c ambients yo :D
 
Rangerjr1 said:
When i get my QDCs ill throw my 7970 back in and take my 1st place back.

5-10c ambients yo :D
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The secret of hawaii is to equal core/memory :D

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NoNameNoNumber said:
I'm not sure tbh, I have to turn the top two fans on low when running CPU benches as the 2500k does kick out some heat but the 780 just doesn't. Admittedly after a while as the water warms up the temps do creep up but only slightly when chasing 3d mark benches... Unigine Heaven though does create a fair bit more heat for whatever reason.

I have my window open, at a guess it's probably 16-18*C in here ambient :D

<8 FPI on the rads? Perhaps the natural air flows through the case rather well.
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All helps :)
My room sits around 20c, and my computer runs passive till 28c water temps, that takes from cold around half hour. (idle, sitting in windows not playing games etc) My rads have a very high FPI though, also pretty shocking airflow in my case :D

After 28c they ramp up from 2v-6v (200-900rpm) CPU sits at 60c (100% load) and GPU 48c.

Pretty nice you get a near passive system though :)
 
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