Pretty much exactly what I thought Frodders, Destiny and new CoD means that they also won't want to drop something that is just plain bad, which is what BF:H looked to me.
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Pretty much exactly what I thought Frodders, Destiny and new CoD means that they also won't want to drop something that is just plain bad, which is what BF:H looked to me.
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All my mates are big battlefield players and have been for years - none of them were even remotely interested in this game for more than £20.
I like the concept but by all accounts there just wasn't going to be anywhere near enough content to make this appealing. Hopefully they do add to that a great deal for 2015 but who knows.
I like the concept but by all accounts there just wasn't going to be anywhere near enough content to make this appealing. Hopefully they do add to that a great deal for 2015 but who knows.
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I'd say not very polished is exactly how I'd describe it.
I guess a delay is good though as I think BF4 annoyed too many people for this to sell. So now it's all about whether they can make a full game of it - or whether it's still going to come out feeling like a very basic, BF4 mod/skin with a few new modes.
If they do a good job of it, I'd be interested - but as of now I have little to no interest in it
its interesting to see a genuine stealth mechanic added to the game.
There genuinely seemed to numerous different ways to complete that mission. The option of being able to arrest and subdue the enemies makes for interesting gameplay too.
With the cameras, highlighting players, multiple routes in etc.. it all felt very WatchDogs-esque which is no bad thing as the freedom in that game was very good.
Hope every mission is like that and they haven't just showcased the best one with everything else being linear.
There genuinely seemed to numerous different ways to complete that mission. The option of being able to arrest and subdue the enemies makes for interesting gameplay too.
With the cameras, highlighting players, multiple routes in etc.. it all felt very WatchDogs-esque which is no bad thing as the freedom in that game was very good.
Hope every mission is like that and they haven't just showcased the best one with everything else being linear.
Same here. I'll wait til it's been out and see what people think of it before I decided if I'm getting it.
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Isn't Jack Frags one of the Youtubers that thought BF4 was broken before launch but was too scared to say anything? If so I wouldn't trust a single video he puts out on this game.
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It still looks good though.
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AI looks stupid and I don't think having every enemy character facing away from you really counts as stealth!
No, him and most big names took money from EA to talk positive things about it, and not talk about any of the glitches.
Complete scumbag.
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I DID NOT know that!
explains how BF4 was so broken (I mean truly broken) when it first came out!
Yea, it striked me a VERY odd that all these guys had " early access" playing it and they said how amazing it was and how well it played and how much better it was than BF3.
Believe people like ChavBoi etc where all on the take.
Notice none of their early videos even talk about one single glitch, till FAR after the release when it was all really kicking off, then, and extremely late to the party, did they start talking about it.
It all came out when it was a bit of a scandal for a while, think Machima etc where all involved in it.
But they were not directly to blame, they jsut said that EA but in place some legal to stop them talking about all the problems with the game.
Believe people like ChavBoi etc where all on the take.
Notice none of their early videos even talk about one single glitch, till FAR after the release when it was all really kicking off, then, and extremely late to the party, did they start talking about it.
It all came out when it was a bit of a scandal for a while, think Machima etc where all involved in it.
But they were not directly to blame, they jsut said that EA but in place some legal to stop them talking about all the problems with the game.
Yeah that's it. If they talked about all the game breaking bugs - of which there were tons and EA knew full well about them - then they'd get massively screwed by EA. As some of these guys rely on Youtube for a living then accepted EA's rules. This is exactly why I won't trust anything what they say about this game and why I'm waiting til it's been out a while before deciding if I'm getting it.
No they didn't, stop talking rubbish.
I've proven this time and time again, the youtubers turned up at a pre release event whereby they got to play the same beta version of the game that everybody got to play at E3 and where all over reddit talking about how amazing it was.
They played it on a bespoke LAN installation that had its own LAN dedicated server with zero lag. All of the hit detection issues and sync issues with battlefield go away when you play on a local LAN with zero lag.
A few of them, including the people that played the game at E3 made observations that the game crashed. However at this point they were not playing the final release code and were playing beta code, and everybody including the thousands that got to play this At E3 at other events made exceptions for the crashes as they were told this is beta code and not indicative of the final release.
The youtubers were paid to make a video, and given a brief to make a video showcasing leveloution. In order to quality it had to levelolution in the title and some other things that enabled EA to search for it. The youtubers in question showed these videos after this came out and nowhere did they say how amazing the game was, or that it didn't crash, or that it was super awesome, they just showed you the levolution.
Nobody saw the mess of the BF4 release incoming, apart from maybe some of the staff at DICE who knew they had still had issues with the changes they'd implemented since E3 and hadn't managed to get stable. For example, at this event they got to play paracel storm - and one of them made observations the network syncronized waves caused the server to crash every now and again - but this was understandable given it was beta code. But this was nothing like it was at the final release where the client crashed at least every round, on every platform, with the server crashing often as much for different reasons.
Heck there was a bug in release that caused everybody to crash and emptied entire 64 player servers when the tower came down on siege of shanghai. It did this nearly every time without fail on release on PC. However we, the battlefield community watched the E3 livestream that streamed that map 24/7 for almost 2/3 days and not once was this bug seen. The release code was more bug filled than the beta code as obviously they had to rush at the end to got loads of new features into the game, couldn't get it stable, and ran out of time and had to release it unfinished. Its no way the fault of the youtubers that we didn't see it coming, we watched all the livestreams of the public playing this build of the game at E3 and gamesconn ffs !!
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I DID NOT know that!
explains how BF4 was so broken (I mean truly broken) when it first came out!
you didn't know it because its not true, that's why.
Don't get me wrong - i'm not defending EA here. I saw the state BF4 was release in - i talked to the PC community who got it first and had the most issues. The PC server code was crashing at least every round, with the clients crashing as often as 2 or 3 times in the same round after people re joined.
It was a truly terrible state and its obvious that BF4 was released unfinished, rushed, and they tried to add too many features for the time they had. EA then decide the best way to follow up this release was to put a cops and robbers skin on the BF4 engine, and release another battlefield game 12 months after and pretend it had been in development for "3 years". Yeah right, 2 years spent on another engine before EA made them bin it and restart using the BF3 engine and assets and then knock something up in 10 months.
But to blame all the youtubers for not telling us is complete tosh. EA were publicly live streaming several events where the public got to play this version of the code, and none of us saw the bugs that were present in release.
Jackfrags in particular has been singled out for lieing to us and not saying what was wrong. He uploaded the full 43 minutes of footage he got when he attended the public event at E3. You tell me, where are all the game breaking crashes and lag issues in that game that we saw on release. What exactly is he hiding here ?
and again, here is the full unedited footage from the pre release event they attended in August. Where are all the server crashes and client crashes ? where are all the stupid lag events and BS trade kills etc.. we saw in live?
What exactly is he hiding here ?
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