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Autosport are reporting that Red Bull are discussing swapping Yuki and Lawson for the Japanese GP. What a bin fire.
(lets see if this works)

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Ferrari statement.

“Car 16 [Leclerc] was found to be underweight by 1 kg and car 44’s [Hamilton’s] rearward skid wear was found to be 0.5mm below the limit.

“Charles was on a one-stop strategy today and this meant his tyre wear was very high, causing the car to be underweight.

“With regard to Lewis’ skid wear, we misjudged the consumption by a small margin.

“There was no intention to gain any advantage. We will learn from what happened today and make sure we don’t make the same mistakes again.

“Clearly it’s not the way we wanted to end our Chinese GP weekend, neither for ourselves, nor for our fans whose support for us is unwavering.”
 
Ferrari statement.

“Car 16 [Leclerc] was found to be underweight by 1 kg and car 44’s [Hamilton’s] rearward skid wear was found to be 0.5mm below the limit.

“Charles was on a one-stop strategy today and this meant his tyre wear was very high, causing the car to be underweight.

“With regard to Lewis’ skid wear, we misjudged the consumption by a small margin.

“There was no intention to gain any advantage. We will learn from what happened today and make sure we don’t make the same mistakes again.

“Clearly it’s not the way we wanted to end our Chinese GP weekend, neither for ourselves, nor for our fans whose support for us is unwavering.”
Mercedes have been guilty of similar offences before also, it's very fine margins...
 
Pretty dull race overall. Tyres held up far too well despite all the conversation over them.

Lando was pretty lucky there wasn't one more lap, that could have changed his result massively.

Gutted about the Ferrari double DSQ :(
 
Ridiculous to swap after 2 races.

Yup, completely unfair on both drivers.

Would be a big boost for Yuki if he managed to get that car into the top 10, and possibly also better for Lawson to grow in an easier car.

Maybe, although he's faced with an even more difficult task. At least Lawson got to do testing in that car and get used to it before he had to race it in anger. Yuki needs to leap into a new team with a week's notice, run three practice sessions with unfamiliar staff around him, then qualify. That's surely a recipe for disaster. Maybe Yuki can do it, and I think it'd have been smarter for Red Bull to promote him and let Lawson get a full season of preparation at Racing Bulls before getting thrown into the crucible, but I don't see much reason to believe he's going to be much better than Albon, Gasly, or Pérez. I think the most likely outcome is that Yuki gets to have reputation ruined and his confidence crushed.
 
I’d have yeeted him out of the team after those two races tbh

He’s not going to suddenly become good is he given how far off pace he is, there are no signs anything will improve.

I say fair play to Marko on this, no point hanging around hoping lawson is going to get good when every sign points to the complete opposite. We’re not talking about two average performances here, we’re talking about two truly abysmal borderline comical drives that would make every team principle in the grid assume you weren’t at the level required. It's like he drove ok but made some silly mistakes. He is fundamentally slow.
 
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I’d have yeeted him out of the team after those two races tbh

He’s not going to suddenly become good is he given how far off pace he is, there are no signs anything will improve.

I say fair play to Marko on this, no point hanging around hoping he gone get good when every sign points to the complete opposite.

Disagree.

The environment is toxic. The pressure is huge.
Only alpine seems equally as hostile. And surprise surprise. Both rookies are struggling.

Can you imagine having the pressure to perform, the conditions in Australia and your entire future at stake with your employers talking about switching you after 1 race?
Its all in the public eye too.
Albon is flourishing now with a team that gives drivers a chance. I don't expect RBR to keep him more than half a season if he stays at the back. But 2 races? That's unfair.

Toxic.
 
Disagree.

The environment is toxic. The pressure is huge.
Only alpine seems equally as hostile. And surprise surprise. Both rookies are struggling.

Can you imagine having the pressure to perform, the conditions in Australia and your entire future at stake with your employers talking about switching you after 1 race?
Its all in the public eye too.
Albon is flourishing now with a team that gives drivers a chance. I don't expect RBR to keep him more than half a season if he stays at the back. But 2 races? That's unfair.

Toxic.

Meh, thats F1 for you.

He's just not at the level required, no amount of pressure makes you 1 second a lap off your team mate and get overtaken by a Haas in the race and finish well over a minute behind your team mate. He's just slow.
 
Maybe, although he's faced with an even more difficult task. At least Lawson got to do testing in that car and get used to it before he had to race it in anger. Yuki needs to leap into a new team with a week's notice, run three practice sessions with unfamiliar staff around him, then qualify. That's surely a recipe for disaster. Maybe Yuki can do it, and I think it'd have been smarter for Red Bull to promote him and let Lawson get a full season of preparation at Racing Bulls before getting thrown into the crucible, but I don't see much reason to believe he's going to be much better than Albon, Gasly, or Pérez. I think the most likely outcome is that Yuki gets to have reputation ruined and his confidence crushed.
No question that the entire thing is a cluster, and maybe they weren’t expecting the car to be so bad.

The main thing in Yuki’s favour is his experience with RB-type cars and just general F1 experience. I don’t know whether Lawson will ever get there unless an upcoming change clicks with him, which sucks for consistency as every race could be a different car.

If the swap works, it’s good for Yuki’s career since other teams are unlikely to pick him up without sponsorship. Lawson also won’t have his career totally destroyed/give him a chance to prove himself over a full season. Who knows though.
 
He's just not at the level required, no amount of pressure makes you 1 second a lap off your team mate and get overtaken by a Haas in the race and finish well over a minute behind your team mate. He's just slow.

I don't think anyone thinks Lawson is a future WDC but thrown against Max on tracks he's never raced before with only 11 races over two seasons in F1 and then getting left on slicks in the wet in his first race in a car that is clearly a nightmare to drive? Nah, that's not a fair assessment of his limits.
 
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