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TonyM19 said:
Quick question on leveling up.

I'm L20 and I'm using the Overseers Guardian as my main weapon. Is it classified as a non-automatic or an automatic weapon? Don't know whether to put points into Gunslinger or Commando.
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It depends on how you craft it.

You can tell for any weapon by holding down the trigger. If it carries on firing, it's auto. If it doesn't, it isn't. OG will be non-auto unless you craft it with an automatic receiver (which you can, if you want to). You're almost certainly better off not doing so, for several reasons. Automatic weapons have much worse accuracy due to recoil. They do much less damage per shot. As a result of those two things, they use far more ammunition (which will be a problem). OG's non-auto rate of fire is almost as fast as you can pull the trigger, so it's very usable as non-auto. It's not like the muskets or bolt action rifles, where the fire rate is once every couple of seconds at most.

Also, the perk you'll want is probably neither Gunslinger nor Commando:

Gunslinger: Non-auto pistols
Rifleman: Non-auto rifles
Commando: Automatic non-heavy weapons (pistols and rifles)
 
Glaucus said:
Sweet is it available anywhere at like a sensible price <20 I aint paying 39.99 which is steams price.
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Why not? If you get even just 80 hours of play from it, that's 50p per hour. That's cheap entertainment.

I paid £36 from Amazon (it was £50 on Steam at the time). It's £34.50 on Amazon now. Buy on disc, use it only for the code to activate it on Steam, download Steam version. So you get the Steam version at a lower cost because you're not paying the big mark-up Steam slap on games because they can because they have close to a monopoly. Obviously, a digital download should be much cheaper than a physical copy because it has no manufacturing cost and vastly lower distribution cost. But companies can get away with inflating their profit margins for digital distibution, so they do.

But even at £40 it's a sensible price if you enjoy the game.
 
Just had the biggest anti-climax so far...

The "battle" with Swan. After reading about this on here and Reddit thought it was going to be even harder than the Deathclaw at Witchcraft.

Er, no. Got off a double tap with OG in VATS which dropped his health by over a third. Started trotting round the lake where Cait got a couple of swings in with the Super Sledge, down to half. I then did a 180 and walking backwards hip-fired a clip off from OG finished with another VATS volley and he was gone. Felt quite underwhelmed - a super mutant under-boss on one of the BoS fetch missions spamming missiles and grenades caused me more trouble TBH.
 
Vern1961 said:
Just had the biggest anti-climax so far...

The "battle" with Swan. After reading about this on here and Reddit thought it was going to be even harder than the Deathclaw at Witchcraft.

Er, no. Got off a double tap with OG in VATS which dropped his health by over a third. Started trotting round the lake where Cait got a couple of swings in with the Super Sledge, down to half. I then did a 180 and walking backwards hip-fired a clip off from OG finished with another VATS volley and he was gone. Felt quite underwhelmed - a super mutant under-boss on one of the BoS fetch missions spamming missiles and grenades caused me more trouble TBH.
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He's tough if you find him at level 12 or something like I did ha.
 
Glaucus said:
Sweet is it available anywhere at like a sensible price <20 I aint paying 39.99 which is steams price.
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If you know you'll enjoy it, it's worth the money. I only consider games to last long enough if they offer 45+ hours. I'm already on 180 hours in F4, and reckon I can probably double that by the time I've done all the quests I want to do and built all the settlements how I want. Once I've finished all the quests, I'll probably then spend 5-10 hours with it as a sandbox game by spawning creatures and NPCs near my bases and enjoying epic battles :D

I agree that the retail price of games is high, but if I had to pay £35 for fallout 4 I would not be unhappy.
 
Vern1961 said:
Just had the biggest anti-climax so far...

The "battle" with Swan. After reading about this on here and Reddit thought it was going to be even harder than the Deathclaw at Witchcraft.

Er, no. Got off a double tap with OG in VATS which dropped his health by over a third. Started trotting round the lake where Cait got a couple of swings in with the Super Sledge, down to half. I then did a 180 and walking backwards hip-fired a clip off from OG finished with another VATS volley and he was gone. Felt quite underwhelmed - a super mutant under-boss on one of the BoS fetch missions spamming missiles and grenades caused me more trouble TBH.
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I think as he is near to an early story quest they expect people to come across him in their teens. I run fast and not very far ;) when I first came across him around level 15. Went back at level 30 or so and it was a pretty easy fight.
 
Angilion said:
Why not? If you get even just 80 hours of play from it, that's 50p per hour. That's cheap entertainment.

I paid £36 from Amazon (it was £50 on Steam at the time). It's £34.50 on Amazon now. Buy on disc, use it only for the code to activate it on Steam, download Steam version. So you get the Steam version at a lower cost because you're not paying the big mark-up Steam slap on games because they can because they have close to a monopoly. Obviously, a digital download should be much cheaper than a physical copy because it has no manufacturing cost and vastly lower distribution cost. But companies can get away with inflating their profit margins for digital distibution, so they do.

But even at £40 it's a sensible price if you enjoy the game.
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I bought the boxed copy in a brick and mortar Game for £24.99. Was happy with that!

Last time I was in there though it was back up to £34.99 unfortunately.
 
RE Feeding the Troops Radiant Quests:

Got one of these for Outpost Zimonja... There is no-one at Zimonja for me to talk to with regards to buying (not gunna coerce it out of my poor settlers, doesn't suit my 'character') the crops. Is this a bug that will fix itself? If not, does the quest ever fail itself like the Minutemen radiant quests do? Or is my only option to slaughter everyone there?
 
bayo000 said:
I think as he is near to an early story quest they expect people to come across him in their teens. I run fast and not very far ;) when I first came across him around level 15. Went back at level 30 or so and it was a pretty easy fight.
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Yes I'm somewhere round Level 25 ATM. Felt sorry for the old boy really. Still putting off doing Saugus this time round though, until at least Level 30. Those guys really scare me. (Did it around Level 5 or 6 on first playthrough, still got the scorch marks and roasting flesh odour in my nostrils :) .
 
Old Man said:
I think going in to take over that light house (the one where the enemy have the gamma guns) is far worse than anything else, so long as you don't use power armor or artillery.
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Yep, that and Quincy town has to be one of the toughest low level encounters I had. I encountered a trapped ghoul boy who had hid in a fridge - he was far away from his home in Quincy. Getting him there was a massive effort at around Lv15 because there were some seriously tough bandits there armed with Fatman launchers etc.

I encountered Swan at around Lv70 or so and after the initial fright, he lasted a few seconds. That Gauss Rifle made the game too easy tbh.

My toughest encounter was at about Lv60. I found a large tower near Goodneighbour called Court 35. Atop this tower is a very nice reward...once you get past the two boobeh traps! Took me a few save reloads to get past this bit even though I was well decked out.
 
bayo000 said:
I think as he is near to an early story quest they expect people to come across him in their teens. I run fast and not very far ;) when I first came across him around level 15. Went back at level 30 or so and it was a pretty easy fight.
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It was a massive anti climax for me as well after reading about him beforehand. I killed him as a level 19 with a handful of shots from a modded Righeous Authority.
 
Angilion said:
It depends on how you craft it.

You can tell for any weapon by holding down the trigger. If it carries on firing, it's auto. If it doesn't, it isn't. OG will be non-auto unless you craft it with an automatic receiver (which you can, if you want to). You're almost certainly better off not doing so, for several reasons. Automatic weapons have much worse accuracy due to recoil. They do much less damage per shot. As a result of those two things, they use far more ammunition (which will be a problem). OG's non-auto rate of fire is almost as fast as you can pull the trigger, so it's very usable as non-auto. It's not like the muskets or bolt action rifles, where the fire rate is once every couple of seconds at most.

Also, the perk you'll want is probably neither Gunslinger nor Commando:

Gunslinger: Non-auto pistols
Rifleman: Non-auto rifles
Commando: Automatic non-heavy weapons (pistols and rifles)
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Thanks
 
How can I benchmark Fallout 4?

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Isn't there a perk that connects all of your settlements workbenches? Atm I keep having to go back to Sanctuary to get a particular weapon item :(
 
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