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***Official Intel Haswell Thread***

I plan on buying 4770k for my first build and June still seems so long away...I however wont be ordering as soon as they drop though if Intel plans on clearing out all the chips with USB 3 issues first, which means if they take their time on resolving the issue which delays a release of a fully functioning chip till august / september I for one might have to just give up and go for 3770k! :(
 
well i did mention on another post -
if Intel can't put out a great chip in June with at least 16 cores
A chip that is better than the console CPU (PS4, Xbox 3) chips expected a few months after. Not too to much to ask - is it?
I'm ready to buy, still with a Quad 6700. But im looking very, very carefully ats what on offer by the end of the year. This needs to be a very good chip
 
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Fruitbooter said:
I plan on buying 4770k for my first build and June still seems so long away...I however wont be ordering as soon as they drop though if Intel plans on clearing out all the chips with USB 3 issues first, which means if they take their time on resolving the issue which delays a release of a fully functioning chip till august / september I for one might have to just give up and go for 3770k! :(
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Or save a bit more and go SB-E :D
 
shuffle said:
well i did mention on another post -
if Intel can't put out a great chip in June with at least 16 cores
A chip that is better than the console CPU (PS4, Xbox 3) chips expected a few months after. Not too to much to ask - is it?
I'm ready to buy, still with a Quad 6700. But im looking very, very carefully ats what on offer by the end of the year. This needs to be a very good chip
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Not going to happen.
The console chips are custom APUs that work differently to PCs.
 
What i meant is that you can't compare the two (PC CPUs and Console custom APUs), and it's pointless anywho because they work differently.
 
What I keep thinking is if I can put a 4770k in a mobo with at least 40 PCI-E 3.0 lanes, it would make an excellent benching rig......

No I must resist, I must resist, I must..........
 
The lack of TSX support on K series was a suprise, the general IPC performance not so.

For desktop enthusiasts it all comes down to the overclock potential of Haswell (same as its been for over 1yr), and still no real news on that front. Unfortunately it seems market forces have converged to the detrement of the performance desktop.

I suppose on the plus side it does mean we are seeing more longevity of the hardware particularly relevent to SB owners, and it allows for time of high-end GPU parts to fall in price.
 
Rossi~ said:
It's a custom APU based on the Jaguar using GDDR5, which will not be used for desktop.
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The jaguar cores will be used for PC's though/Laptops whatnot.
So we can still compare the CPU.

The GPU is some GCN beast, in between a 7850/7870 (But obviously its performance due to efficiency/optimising will be a lot more than a 7850/7870).

So we can compare the sum of its parts, although it's performance will be greater due to optimising etc.
 
Martini1991 said:
The jaguar cores will be used for PC's though/Laptops whatnot.
So we can still compare the CPU.

The GPU is some GCN beast, in between a 7850/7870 (But obviously its performance due to efficiency/optimising will be a lot more than a 7850/7870).

So we can compare the sum of its parts, although it's performance will be greater due to optimising etc.
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You can compare all you like, but it's still apples and oranges.
 
Better quality games for the PC, and that's about it really. I don't understand the point of trying to compare hardware specs. Especially when next gen consoles will be stuck on 1080p at 60fps with those stupid controllers.

Saying that though if they somehow arrive with full mouse and keyboard support, running 1080p 120Hz vsync, then I'll probably sell my gaming PC on the spot.
 
ubersonic said:
Read this earlier and was pretty disappointed.

Its not exactly the most informative article is it, just reaffirms what common sense dictated anyway, Haswell beats IB clock for clock which also beats SB clock for clock, and if the app can use >4 cores then SB-E beats them all

OFC they also have some GPU results for the mid range iGPU and a little bit to say they didn't bother attempting an overclock.
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I am also dissapoint.
 
BigBANGtheory said:
For desktop enthusiasts it all comes down to the overclock potential of Haswell (same as its been for over 1yr), and still no real news on that front.
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It will be very interesting to see whether Intel use solder or cheap TIM to attach the heat spreader to the core.
 
silk300 said:
Heres hoping they use cheap TIM and glue the heatspreader on.
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silk300 said:
Heres hoping they use cheap TIM and glue the heatspreader on.
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Do you own one of Intel's manufacturing plants? :p


I've been trying to rank ideal* 2013's offering of CPU's for gaming with light VM's and simulation work.
1. 4930K? (Haswell-E 3930K successor if Ivy-E is dropped, with soldered lid?)
2. 4930K? (Ivybridge-E 3930K successor at the end of the year with soldered lid?)
3. 4770K (soldered lid and better memory voltage support)
4. 3930K (known quantity)
5. 2700K (discontinued)

2 and 3 look the most promising but there is no doubt that Intel will do something to make the choice less black and white.



*What I would hope for, not what I know will happen
 
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