**** Official Microsoft Flight Simulator Thread ****

bmad said:
I would like to know if there is an upgrade path from the game pass edition to the ultimate one. Don't fancy dropping £120 if the standard £60 version is included with game pass
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I would seriously doubt it, you don't own any of the titles you access via Game Pass, you are essentially renting them, and they can be pulled at any point at the descretion of MS. I'm pretty sure you would actually need to own a copy of the sim in order to be able to upgrade it. I imagine that upgrades for purchased copies will be avilable from the storefornt, but MS have said it will be more cost effective to get the version you want rather than upgrade at a later date.
 
Anyone else stoked that this comes with 10 dvds and a manual in a box? Reminds me of the good ol’ days when all pc games arrived this way.

Saying that I don’t even have a dvd drive on my PC so I shall be downloading!
 
Mikeey said:
Anyone else stoked that this comes with 10 dvds and a manual in a box? Reminds me of the good ol’ days when all pc games arrived this way.
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10 Dual layer DVD's equal 85GB of data whereas the MS spec for the download version states 150GB of HDD space required so you have to wander what you will be loosing out by buying the boxed version or if the missing 65GB is just a placeholder for temporary downloaded scenery files !?!
 
Right I was going to get it on game pass but have now pre-ordered the premium deluxe version.

It's the first game I've ever pre-ordered and I'm not even sure why I'm bothering, given there's no incentive for doing so, but the top version having the 787 and Heathrow for an extra £50 was a relatively easy decision, given how much add-ons cost in xplane etc.
 
Does the pre-order page on the Xbox Site for the £100 version give you the discs or just purely download? Would prefer the discs, much prefer physical. Also can anyone suggest a good flight stick for this?
 
I wonder if Heathrow will come as a standalone upgrade? So buy the basic version and shell out a few quid for heathrow?

Incidentally folks, Ive got an X52... Ive always played Sim type games with such a setup but I wonder if flight yoke would be the way to go? Do any of you use a yoke and other stuff?
(for rudders is there a way to control them aside from the rudder pedals?)
 
Its a pity they don't offer it on memory sticks as well as DVDs or download, its ok if you have a fast internet connection but it will still take a while to download, also I imagine a lot of people will not have DVD drives in their PCs
 
Cavallino said:
I wonder if Heathrow will come as a standalone upgrade? So buy the basic version and shell out a few quid for heathrow?

Incidentally folks, Ive got an X52... Ive always played Sim type games with such a setup but I wonder if flight yoke would be the way to go? Do any of you use a yoke and other stuff?
(for rudders is there a way to control them aside from the rudder pedals?)
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Gut feeling, at least initially they won't. Can imagine a number of people wanting some of the airport's specifically in the premium / premium deluxe version so will pay the premium to get the upgrade, even if it's solely for one of two of the airport's / aircraft. Shall see though I suppose.
 
200Mb/s Virgin fibre cable ready to get busy here. Really not worried about time to download the game nor in-game download speeds (assuming the MS servers can handle the demand...!).

I'm far more worried about when the next round of CPUs and GPUs are coming out as I need to upgrade for this game.
 
Only just come across this today, been reading through the last few pages and I can see the value in just going for the premium/deluxe version off the bat but I think I might sign up for the PC Game Pass, try out the standard version and see how it goes. I have never played a flight simulator so worst case it costs me about £5 to test it for a month then I just cancel that sub and buy it out right.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
Only just come across this today, been reading through the last few pages and I can see the value in just going for the premium/deluxe version off the bat but I think I might sign up for the PC Game Pass, try out the standard version and see how it goes. I have never played a flight simulator so worst case it costs me about £5 to test it for a month then I just cancel that sub and buy it out right.
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I get that logic, but for me the chances of not subsequently buying it outright and opting to rent from game pass instead are so close to zero that the subscription fee is essentially money up the wall (albeit not very much money).
 
Participant said:
I get that logic, but for me the chances of not subsequently buying it outright and opting to rent from game pass instead are so close to zero that the subscription fee is essentially money up the wall (albeit not very much money).
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Thats true, I am also going to have to invest in PC upgrades and from what I am reading you basically need a yoke (looking at the Alpha Honeycomb) so to invest in all that equipment I am basically committing to going for the game hah.
 
So on my shopping list for this game:

- MFS2020 £110 (purchased)
- Honeycomb yoke - £220
- Honeycomb Bravo throttle quadrant - ~£250
- Ryzen 4700 ~£350 (?)
- RTX 3070 £500 (?)
- 32GB RAM £120
- Motherboard ~£150
- Maybe a new PSU ~£120

...and probably a divorce lawyer, as the above is c. £1.8k...for a computer game!

Oh and rudder peddles...£150?
 
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Biz.Kid09 said:
Thats true, I am also going to have to invest in PC upgrades and from what I am reading you basically need a yoke (looking at the Alpha Honeycomb) so to invest in all that equipment I am basically committing to going for the game hah.
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If you have no experience with flight sims I would suggest that the best option for you is to stick with your original plan and go with the game pass. To get any real return on investment you have to understand this is not a game but a simulator. If you are looking for a game I think you will get pretty tired of loading up a 747 on a live runway at Heathrow and flying to your favourite holiday destination (give you about 10 minutes before that loses its appeal), loading up a GA aircraft from your local airport to take a look around your local points of interest (maybe 30 minutes), or going through the missions which may add a bit more interest but will inevitably involve flying different aircraft through hoops under different scenarios (maybe a couple of hours). If you treat it as a simulator then you will start off as any trainee pilot learning the basics of aircraft operation, ground rules, VFR navigation, engine management etc. on something like a Cessna 152, this will take you tens to hundreds of hours to do properly before transitioning to twin engine aircraft, IFR navigation and flight management systems which again will take tens to hundreds of hours to master.........Once you know what you want to get out of the experience you can then decide if you want to invest more money into purchasing your own copy of the software and if an investment in hardware is warranted.
 
@PieEater Great post, thanks for that. Definitely given me a rethink of what I'm actually looking for. My current PC won't be able to run this without an upgrade so I'm tied into that at least. I'll have a think and see how I feel when the game is released.
 
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