*** Official Nintendo Wii U thread ***

^ hit the nail on the head

As a wii u owner I have nothing enticing me ATM

My 3 kids absolutely adore Lego city though and it gets some serious play time

But the problem I have is I already own the 3/4 titles that are must buys

Mario u zombie u Lego city etc etc

There's nothing out there for me to buy at this point

As stated I want new games to buy I want a Zelda a Mario kart etc etc tis a poor show from ninty this time out in terms of top titles
 
Seriously the console has been out barely longer than a year.
By the time it hits its first year it will have some serious titles.

Lets just see what happens at e3 :)

People have very short memories, As I remember the Xbox 360 launched with no decent titles other than PGR3, Which looking back its a bit meh.
After that, There was basically nothing until march when GRAW and Fight night came out, Which were again in the scheme of it OK.
Nothing really good until GoW.

I don't think the Wii U's titles are any worse than any other consoles of recent memory
 
Don't forget though that even at the current price they are selling at a loss.

I read something different to that, i read that the console is still selling at a profitable price, and still has room for a price drop. Its just not enough people are buying the console to make it as successful as the previous generation.

Nintendo pretty much never sale their consoles at a loss unlike Microsoft and Sony.
 
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I got it from an article I read yesterday on the Edge website.

http://www.edge-online.com/features/how-can-nintendo-turn-wii-u-around/

After three months of poor results, the final week of March saw Wii U sales increase by 125 per cent in the UK, with credit shared between Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate’s release and HMV’s £100 price cut for the Premium hardware bundle. HMV’s experiment proved Wii U’s viability were it to be sold at a lower RRP and backed with quality games. The market has deemed Wii U a more desirable prospect at £200 than £300, but when it’s already the first Nintendo console to be sold at a loss, can the company shoulder such a dramatic cut?
 
The 3DS got a pasting until the good games arrived, and now it's almost an essential purchase. It just takes 3 or 4 quality games for opinions to change.

I'm still waiting for Starfox and Pilot Wings using the wiimote ffs - why hasn't this happened!
 
I got it from an article I read yesterday on the Edge website.

http://www.edge-online.com/features/how-can-nintendo-turn-wii-u-around/

More importantly, how many people were waiting for a deal on it, if 10k people in the UK want one and have waited for a lower price, and they all have one now, dropping the price again doesn't mean instantly that they'll sell more again. Also 125% increase in marginal sales is still marginal. up to the 25th may sales were 24k units worldwide, I think it was 5-6k in Europe, which you would guess is probably sub 2k in the UK, for just HMV would could be talking about 200 units instead of 100, or at best maybe 1k instead of 500.

EDIT:- misread it slightly, it did say it boosted Uk sales but doesn't say monthly sales. The Wii U still supposedly sold under 7k the month before, this could still mean only doubling, being generous, 500-600 units in the final week up to 1200 maybe.

From the rest of the article, they say Vita's "upshift" might be cause to be positive, its not, there is only one competitor for the Vita(one real one) and no "new gen" on the horizon and Sony support behind it. Wii U has dev's jumping ship , a new gen very very close and the last gen all outselling the Wii U still. They hoped for 9million sales this year, they sold over 3mil at launch and have added about 400k since then, they'll have trouble, seemingly, selling more than a couple million this year, infact, 2mil would be a pretty high target with current numbers, a very high target, it likely can't do that without a significant drop in price straight away.

The problem is its expensive because they put money into old tech, gpu's are massively more efficient than the old school gpu they are using, and more efficient cpu's than the one they are using and they are making them on an old process meaning much bigger and higher power usage.

PS4 is now being rumoured to cost $350 at launch, thats likely £250-275 in the UK...... they are going to offer such significantly better performance and better game libraries.

I can't see it selling well once the new consoles release unless it hits below £150, maybe well below, but they are competing with inefficient hardware on the wrong process. THe same level of performance on a current gen AMD gpu, quad core Jaguar and 28nm process would save a HUGE amount in manufacturing, they've shot themselves completely in the foot with this one.

The X1 is looking to be around $399 with a heavily rumoured lower price + subscription(that most people will get anyway) version, potentially being £300 for full price in the uk with maybe as low as £200 with a subscription.

As for games, the problem with games is the Xbox 360 had few games at launch and it took a long while for "loads" of games to come out, but at no stage where developers saying they might no support it, let alone flat out saying we're ignoring it. The X1 won't launch with a huge number of titles, but by the end of the first year people know there will be a couple dozen games with plenty of AAA titles, the same isn't true of the Wii U.


Ultimately the hardware cost has boned them, its way to expensive, and its too expensive to be made, and it can't be made hugely cheaper to manufacture without a complete redesign, it can't compete and developers know that, so they've decided to not waste cash making games for it, which will consign it to mostly Nintendo own brand games, which is fine and many will be good. But for the customer that means, similar price, PS4 or X1 with their own exclusives + all multiplatform games and all dev's supporting, and the Wii U, with Nintendo only games, and thats about it. 10 times as much power, much prettier graphics, more media features, better support and WAY WAY WAY more games.

I'd suggest the one and only chance for it is to tank pricing, today and hope it sells enough consoles before the new gen actually launches to persuade some more dev's to make games for it. While they plod along with crap sales which every week just encourage even more people to wait for the new gen, they are making it worse for themselves.

Most sane gamers would choose a new gen box at £250 over a Wii U at £100 at the end of the year.... today a Wii U at £150 vs 360/ps3 with similar deals is potentially doable. That is their other problem 360/ps3 with WAY more games, more support from the industry and cheaper...... There is a reason the two about to be obsoleted consoles have dropped sales pretty significantly, and are still destroying the Wii U in sales.
 
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Wii U shows exactly why Sony/Microsoft aren't going for backwards compatibility in the next gen, part of why the Wii U has gimped hardware is because they wanted full backwards compatibility.

There's no way they are going to hit 9 million sold this year, they are doing around 50-60 thousand a month in the US, around 24-30 thousand a month in Japan and not much differently in the EU.

Whilst the PS3 and 360 had launches just as slow as the Wii U, if not slower, even at over £400 in the UK and not many games the PS3 never lost 3rd party support.
 
It is surprising that a big company such as ninty can launch a console so far off the mark...IMO.. With no real first class gaming support when they have such a huge fan base and quality IPS.

There is absolutely nothing that will currently entice me to buy one, even if it was selling at 99 quid. Really strange set of affairs.
 
What I don't understand is what were Nintendo doing? They stopped supporting the Wii about 2 years before they announced the Wii U, they saw other devs had problems transitioning to the HD consoles 6 years ago and yet they don't appear to have learned anything and they themselves have had issues transitioning to HD development.
 
What I don't understand is what were Nintendo doing? They stopped supporting the Wii about 2 years before they announced the Wii U, they saw other devs had problems transitioning to the HD consoles 6 years ago and yet they don't appear to have learned anything and they themselves have had issues transitioning to HD development.

They just seem to have really underestimated the resources and time needed to create AAA HD games
 
We used our Wii U for the first time in a month or so today. Until now we (my two boys mostly) had only played Wii and Wii U games on it but today I thought it time to fire up the virtual console and bought Super Metroid for 30p.

We were talking yesterday about how games used to be and they (10 and 7 years old) thought it was hilarious to see such poor graphics and basic gameplay but they were both fighting for another turn so there must be something to it!
 
There were about 5 games on sale for this in the Game store I went into today. Pretty grim.

Meanwhile, I'm laughing at the awesome choices for cheap on the PS3 back catalogue. I never see a reason to pay money for a new console - it's mental. I waited 2 months from God of War "4" coming out and got it today for £15. It's just a no brainer to wait until prices come down.

As I think I said in my first post in this thread, I have absolutely no interest in the wii U. It's kind of sad to see Nintendo flagging so hard on a console.
 
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We used our Wii U for the first time in a month or so today. Until now we (my two boys mostly) had only played Wii and Wii U games on it but today I thought it time to fire up the virtual console and bought Super Metroid for 30p.

We were talking yesterday about how games used to be and they (10 and 7 years old) thought it was hilarious to see such poor graphics and basic gameplay but they were both fighting for another turn so there must be something to it!

If I ever have kids I'm starting them on the SNES games.
 
Hear they are clearing the basic model from the shelves in the states.

With 3D Mario, kart and smash coming plus the games already out I think now might be the best time to pick one up :D
 
Lets just some all the rubbish up then shall we.

Yeah its not breaking sales records
Yeah EA et al are being a bit childish, But ultimately tomorrow they (Nintendo)are going to announce some serious games.
Big sellers
We all ready know to expect
Mario
Mario Kart
Zelda (Times two for petes sake)
Pikmin
I suspect they will announce a price drop too

I think the PS4 will launch at 400 quid.
With the Wii u premium being about 200RRP wise (Perhaps cheaper)

With some good games behind it, championing "the games" and with no drm rubbish it has a strong USP at this point and will sell like hot cakes.
Its only been out 6 or so months, But now it the time its getting in its swing, Look at the 3ds one year ago and look at it now.
Its momentum has grown massively and I feel this is something Nintendo can repeat with the Wii U.

When I look back at the Xbox 360 titles I have owned, Some 50+ over its life cycle, Very few of them captured my imagination and I feel very few will be looked back at in a decade or so.
But even though I only had a few games on the Wii, The ones I had were played to death and some of my favourites of all time.

Frankly, I've seen the graphics produced by the Xbox One and PS4, But while great, They don't really push gaming forward do they a whole lot, I feel this is one of the first generations of gaming where we can really say that graphics are not whats important on a new machine anymore.
Other than MGS5 and Forza 4, There are no games today that I REALLY want to play.
And that's what gaming is about. Playing games.

So how about we all quit the dark doom and gloom b.s and vote with our wallets.
 
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EA are just trolling now..

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PSP and PS2 but no Wii U?
 
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