*** Official Nvidia 9xxx Series Thread***

[wolvers]

I see it as performance for price though. You can buy an 8800GTS 512 for less than I paid for my 640 one and it's a fair bit faster. That's still progress for me.

I see your point about renaming them with the 9xxx series to boost sales That's a bit pants for sure.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Yeah its rubbish, its about time we had some new tech, were in 2008, yet Nvidia and AMD are still in 2006.

 

[willhub]

I'm waiting for the 12800GTX .

 

[Muse_Cubed]

This is infuriating, I was really counting on the 9xxx series proper being out in March/April. Looks like I'm going to have to buy a stopgap seeing as my current X800 is AGP. Gah.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Ive never seen those benchmarks that are in your Performance bit from pcgameshardware.de, looks rubbish there, no wonder they've delayed it.

 

[jambus]

Ive never seen those benchmarks that are in your Performance bit from pcgameshardware.de, looks rubbish there, no wonder they've delayed it.

Have a look on google, just search for 9800GX2 benchmarks, you get loads of results, the general trend actually goes with what NVidia promised us, which is roughly 30% greater performance than an Ultra, however, for a new series it's still a steaming POS.

 

[Lightnix]

I'm waiting for the 12800GTX .

I'm waiting for the GeForce10 Ti600.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Have a look on google, just search for 9800GX2 benchmarks, you get loads of results, the general trend actually goes with what NVidia promised us, which is roughly 30% greater performance than an Ultra, however, for a new series it's still a steaming POS.

Yeah, looks like the 3870X2 is gona cane it.

 

[jambus]

Interesting you say that, it's on par to match the 9800GX2 in terms of performance, however, the reason the 3870x2 is being delayed is due to the drivers which were bottlenecking its performance in certain areas so that it underperformed compared to the ultra. See, these two new cards, essentially are basically setting the standard at the ultra and trying to beat it. The GX2 apparently does it from what we've seen, but it's been delayed once again for god knows whatever reason, while the 3870x2, when they fix the drivers for it, will also beat the ultra and be released first... i.e. ATI wins... at least that's what looks like what's going to happen. That having been said, neither of them still really run crysis at a reasonable rate.

 

[Talrinys]

The point about the GTS being better is a good point, but i'm still gonna say that the 8800GTS isn't worth it.
Going from at GT to GTS gave almost no performance boost, there's absolutely no doub that these cards are severely memory limited and without a way to overclock the memory much, it just won't go faster. Even at 1680x1050 i only get about 200 points extra by overclocking the core by quite a bit, and i get almost no more points than with my 8800GT which was clocked lower.

Bigger bus, new architecture is what we need, not this.

 

[jambus]

The point about the GTS being better is a good point, but i'm still gonna say that the 8800GTS isn't worth it.
Going from at GT to GTS gave almost no performance boost, there's absolutely no doub that these cards are severely memory limited and without a way to overclock the memory much, it just won't go faster. Even at 1680x1050 i only get about 200 points extra by overclocking the core by quite a bit, and i get almost no more points than with my 8800GT which was clocked lower.

Bigger bus, new architecture is what we need, not this.

Amen brother!

 

[BassPunk]

My hunch is that nVidia has 2 teams working on their GPU's

One team made the geforce 3, 5 and 7 series while the other made the 4, 6 and 8 series or something similar to this.

Shame about the 9 series but I was expecting it to be weak

 

[jambus]

mmm. I'm looking to ATI to provide us with next-gen graphics in the quickest time frame tbh and that's coming from a Green goblin such as myself, never used to doubt Nvidia... till now.

 

[Lightnix]

My hunch is that nVidia has 2 teams working on their GPU's

One team made the geforce 3, 5 and 7 series while the other made the 4, 6 and 8 series or something similar to this.

Shame about the 9 series but I was expecting it to be weak

One team seems to be quite severely better than the other. Perhaps they should juggle staff a little and fire those responsible for the 5 series. <<;

 

[jambus]

One team seems to be quite severely better than the other. Perhaps they should juggle staff a little and fire those responsible for the 5 series. <<;

Ah Lightnix there you are, was going to ask you about your sig. What is the Ti600?

 

[gary996]

I so hope that ATI kick Nvidia's ass so hard with their next card that it will make them wake up and bring something new to the table

 

[willhub]

We might have to wait for the R700 for that

 

[Monkeynut]

ATi aren't stupid enough to sit there without a plan. They managed to turn around the 2900.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Well their next gen R700 is on track for middle of this year, so they will be nearly 2x years ahead of Nvidia, if indeed their G100's are just same old 8800's.

 

[ergonomics]

Well their next gen R700 is on track for middle of this year, so they will be nearly 2x years ahead of Nvidia, if indeed their G100's are just same old 8800's.

again. you keep saying this. 'its old tech'

by that respect you saying that intel new series of cpus are 2 year old tech? will you keep saying this on every die shrink? that its just same old tech, but smaller?

IT IS NEW TECHNOLOGY. it is a big step forward to have the die shrunk, you cannot keep saying that all the next gen cards are just 'old tech but smaller' as thats a total contradiction.

if you did you would have to say that almost every single product out there is just 'old tech but smaller/changed slightly'

edit: this isnt anything personal at all, im just noticing how you say it in every thread, and you put nvidia and ati down a lot. are you honestly expecting some world changing, prototype piece of technology that is 100% different than what is used now to be released within the next 3-4 years? it will change SLOWLY, so that if you compared a gpu in 5 years to one now, you could then see the huge differences, but the way its done, is that there are small changes per generation.

no development team can afford to just spend hundreds of millions on super new technology or thinking thats 'too far out of the box'. i mean look at 3dfx..