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****Official OcUK Fury X Review Thread****
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Fury is launched on the 14th of July and Fury Nano after that.
Personally I'm looking for 4k, so the fact it's nipping at the heels of the 980ti stock fills me with hope once we get an unlock & windows 10, if it beat it at 4k I'm getting 3 of them & a huge monster case & WC CPU to go with it. I don't give a crap about 1080p, that's a console resolution now. 
Makes me laugh how AMD were saying it is a overclocking dream etc but yet it cannot be overclocked...
Many are locked on release & it takes time for the tool developers to get it running on a totally new card.
We have literally no idea of it's capabilities in this regard & most likely won't for another four weeks. If AMD were smart they would show us some benchmarks with unlocked voltage so we can know what to expect. As the cat is out of the bag regarding it's performance they have nothing to lose now, except for if people jump on the 980ti over the next month assuming it's got nothing up it's sleeve.
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Honestly i doubt they even know its overclocking capability.
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Considering we have 2 AMD reps on here why do AMD keep there customers in the dark? Surely they should be shouting from the roof tops that a piece of overclocking software will be ready at a certain date ?? Just do not get AMD at all
I agree, they should be communicating with the public, they have many people who want to purchase the card but want some further information.
They most certainly have the capacity to find out & as I said earlier, it's not like they will lose anything except for a large number of customers moving to the 980ti who are currently in the market to buy. If I got told today it's useless in that regard I'll get two 980ti's, if I find out it's useless in 4 weeks I'll still get two 980ti's & I'm one of the few willing to wait. But everybody unwilling to wait will be out of the market by the time the information lands.
They most certainly have the capacity to find out & as I said earlier, it's not like they will lose anything except for a large number of customers moving to the 980ti who are currently in the market to buy. If I got told today it's useless in that regard I'll get two 980ti's, if I find out it's useless in 4 weeks I'll still get two 980ti's & I'm one of the few willing to wait. But everybody unwilling to wait will be out of the market by the time the information lands.
Considering we have 2 AMD reps on here why do AMD keep there customers in the dark? Surely they should be shouting from the roof tops that a piece of overclocking software will be ready at a certain date ?? Just do not get AMD at all
We need Matt to use a secret account. He'd have to leave his humour behind though as we'd figure it out in seconds
.Considering we have 2 AMD reps on here why do AMD keep there customers in the dark? Surely they should be shouting from the roof tops that a piece of overclocking software will be ready at a certain date ?? Just do not get AMD at all
AMD don't do overclocking software apart the limited stuff in the CCC. It's down to the AIBs to unlock voltage control with updated software.
Of course, but they could over-clock one of their own cards & show us an approximation of the potential. I don't expect a tool to be release by them but I do expect some information as to what we may be purchasing.
It makes good business sense.
They might be crap clockers, they aint gonna show that off.
I doubt it will make that much difference, we find out in four weeks anyway. It it does overclock like a pig that comment regarding an overclockers dream is going to haunt them for years. It will greatly shake my trust in purchasing anything they have to offer in the future if it is so & I'm quite favourable towards AMD.
I wouldn't say that. The guys working on 'Ashes of the singularity' have already shown that those draw call improvements can go towards adding point lights to EVERY particle effect you want them on. Whereas before you could only have 6 - 10 real light sources in a scene with directx 11. The rest of them either being faked in textures or post processed.
He who loughs last, laughs the longest.
Exactly as predicted, performance between 980 and TI but pulls 50w more power, which is the reason for the water cooler. In itself I dont think that is a problem, I persoanlly would have a slight preference for the water cooler
One of the more interesting things is that AMD evidently tweaked the tessellation performance and now the one game where the FuryX has the biggest improvements over the 290X is in the Witther 3 WITH HAIRWORKS SWITCHED ON. Funny how AMD go on about gameworks and they are to incompetent to optimize yadayadayada instead of facing the truth that their tessellation performance stinks. Look what happens when they improve their hardware, bingo they become highly competitive with nvidia in Gamesworks titles.
Anyway, i'm probably one fo the few people that aren't disappointed with the launch since I set realistic expectations based on the available information, e.g. 1.5X he performance per watt vs Hawaii would clearly show the performance per watt is still behind nvidia.2x8pin connectors and AIO was evidence enough that to get the performance to met the 980Ti that power would be high, AMD had tolds us all the facts at launch and yet i get trolled into suspension for pointing out the obvious facts that AMD provided.
Well done AMD for getting HBM out the door, maybe it will payoff when we move to 16mm and you will have a big head start over Nvidia.
Exactly as predicted, performance between 980 and TI but pulls 50w more power, which is the reason for the water cooler. In itself I dont think that is a problem, I persoanlly would have a slight preference for the water cooler
One of the more interesting things is that AMD evidently tweaked the tessellation performance and now the one game where the FuryX has the biggest improvements over the 290X is in the Witther 3 WITH HAIRWORKS SWITCHED ON. Funny how AMD go on about gameworks and they are to incompetent to optimize yadayadayada instead of facing the truth that their tessellation performance stinks. Look what happens when they improve their hardware, bingo they become highly competitive with nvidia in Gamesworks titles.
Anyway, i'm probably one fo the few people that aren't disappointed with the launch since I set realistic expectations based on the available information, e.g. 1.5X he performance per watt vs Hawaii would clearly show the performance per watt is still behind nvidia.2x8pin connectors and AIO was evidence enough that to get the performance to met the 980Ti that power would be high, AMD had tolds us all the facts at launch and yet i get trolled into suspension for pointing out the obvious facts that AMD provided.
Well done AMD for getting HBM out the door, maybe it will payoff when we move to 16mm and you will have a big head start over Nvidia.
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I've been out of the overclocking game for years so i hope someone experience can itch in here.
Given 2 cards: 1 that can overclock highly on stock volts and further with more volts, another that has mediocre overclocks t stock volts and unknown performance with more volts. Is it likely that the 2nd card will be just as good at overclocking with equal controller power and voltage?
In a simplistic view it seems that overclocking ability at stock volts has a strong indication of the absolute potential no?
The only reason I can see for poor stock overclocking is that the stock voltage is purposely cut to the absolute minimum to maintain that speed in order to keep power levels at bay. Power is proportional to voltage squared .
If that was the case there could be decent potential in the future but Fury's power usage will go up dramatically and it is already high.
AMD cards are generally clocked quite aggressively at stock.
I can't see there being too much headroom, even with more volts. If there was, then surely they'd have clocked it higher at stock, especially with the cooling solution on the Fury X.
Still interested in getting a couple, though.
I can't see there being too much headroom, even with more volts. If there was, then surely they'd have clocked it higher at stock, especially with the cooling solution on the Fury X.
Still interested in getting a couple, though.
It is important to note that draw call performance has very little indication of actual gaming performance. Nvidia's DX11 drivers have twice the throughput of AMD's but the cards are not where near twice as fast.
Moreover, drawcall performance has always been poor and every game engine always tries to minimize the number of draw calls through techniques like batching and instancing. This makes the games not at all bottlenecked by draw calls because they were designed not to be, so switching to DX12 with the same game engine wont change anything.
DX12 will allow more advanced graphics in the future for game engines written form the ground up. More worryingly it will likely mean that developers can just be much more lazy and let the GPU handle things. Some of the issues I come across with my amateur developments is things like rendering a forest. I want to have 10,000 unique trees rendered but can only send a few thousand draw calls in total. Currently I have to use instancing and the trees mostly look all the same because of that. DX12 will allow thousand of unique models to be rendered , but this will come at the cost of a large increase in memory usage. - roll on Pascal with 16-32GB HBM2!
My first reaction of this card was a disappointment, i think we have to give it 2-4 weeks to prove itself, new drivers, new MSI AB, new reviews and DX12 test also. The EK WB looks promising, if you can cool this card down and VRMs too and you have the OC availability, then... who knows. Patience
That is kind of my thoughts. AMD knew the 980Ti performance so if they could increase voltage and clocks a little to get a solid result in a spectrum of benchmarks they would have.