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Official OcUK Skylake-X & Kabylake-X Review thread

Yes, barely read Anandtech reviews anymore. While their 'corporate-friendly' wording in reviews is not new it has gotten worse. And since they no longer do the in-depth dive-ins of architectures like they used to (possible because Intel no longer talk much about the internal workings), there's not much point reading their reviews. Their choices of benchmarks are a bit strange too. But they are not the only ones, despite Intel pushing HEDT to gamers with deep pockets, it's almost like Intel's review guide said not to bench games.

Even Tom's has done a better review which has happened a few times recently. That Computerbase and Hardware.fr didn't get any review samples. The European press tends to be less kind to Intel's corporate review policy while plenty of American press tends to lap up everything Intel says.

Hardware.fr:

http://www.hardware.fr/news/15159/pre-commandes-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-ouvertes.html


https://www.computerbase.de/2017-06/intel-core-i9-7900x-nicht-im-test/

Telling, as compared to anands reviews of old, their conclusion on this article was near press release quality!
 
So it's a manufacturing fault then. No? Some may even go as far as saying they are broken. :D:p

In all seriousness though why would the glue which is only a silicone sealant or gasket in effect, cause the ihs to not sit down? If they were clamped down with enough fore, which wouldn't need to be a lot, the silicone would be forced outwards. Not saying your wrong it just doesn't make sense but would still validate my original comment, just de-lid remove faulty silicone, re-tim and re-lid.


something going on during manufacture, possibly trying out different adhesives or fixing solutions?

skylake was pretty good, and it seems skylake x is too, since delidding only gives about 10c.

possibly due to having different plants use different machinery? I don't know but there's so many possible variables it's hard to say, the tolerances are so tiny it could be something they didn't pick up on with initial kabylake batch, later batches seem to be better.
 
The European press tends to be less kind to Intel's corporate review policy while plenty of American press tends to lap up everything Intel says.


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hi
thanks obama? lol

here's a question for everyone, VRMs, normally I use asus boards, noticed the msi boards like the carbon gaming and m7 have 12 phase digital vrms.

would this be better than the 8phase setup on the asus boards?
I do believe more phases is better. Can anyone else confirm?
 
I've heard that, but I can't quite understand why to be honest. do quality of phases also make a big difference ?

does it help overclocking or stability etc?
I think phase describes the number of peak electrical voltage/current)in a cycle. More phases would help to deliver more consistent voltage/current to the CPU. I guess the quality of the components determines how smooth the power delivery is or something like that
 
I think phase describes the number of peak electrical voltage/current)in a cycle. More phases would help to deliver more consistent voltage/current to the CPU. I guess the quality of the components determines how smooth the power delivery is or something like that


so guess i need to wait for a review of the msi and asus board to compare components like tweaktown or buildzoid do?

but it's safe to say, if the components were the same or equal quality, the msi would be better due to having more?
 
Well, looks like I'm waiting to see what ThreadRipper can offer, as I'm not convinced by the 7820x.
 
watched a couple more reviews, seems a few us youtubers have been left out of the loop by intel handing out cpu's also maybe its not a case of intel dumping on the euro guys but just a lack of cpu's to review ? if so i can see a few upset people come next week when they are still waiting for cpu's to show up.
 
watched a couple more reviews, seems a few us youtubers have been left out of the loop by intel handing out cpu's also maybe its not a case of intel dumping on the euro guys but just a lack of cpu's to review ? if so i can see a few upset people come next week when they are still waiting for cpu's to show up.

It's already known a few people in the EU/UK broke nda last release and Intel is punishing all of Europe because of it.
 
It's already known a few people in the EU/UK broke nda last release and Intel is punishing all of Europe because of it.

haha did a stream last night, his explanation was this.

the motherboard vendors and Intel had a gather not long after computex, at this meeting Intel said it would hand out samples to reviewers, jayz had his birthday so declined, they strongly suggested to him that it would be better for him to get a sample at that meeting but said if not they will send the sample out.

he then said there seems to have been a delay in posting out review samples, not just to eu, but to some of the US reviewers too. he received his yesterday so expect reviews over next few days.


computerbase.de has said theyre waiting on samples, but it's down to customs delays, apparently they had the same issue with ryzen release and with kabylake, some of the other EU reviewers have apparently told him this too.

TTL did mention he has a review kit on the way too, so it seems like the reviewers that did get samples are currently sharing them with other reviewers until all the kits arrive, probably why there's only a couple 7820x reviews atm
 
bit of a disappointing review of the strix x299 motherboard

https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/06/19/asus-rog-strix-x299-e-gaming-review/11

no clear cmos button? feels like such an essential feature that's helped me out dozens of times, only 4 usb 3.0 ports, which isnt enough imo (my keyboard and mouse setup use 4 as it is)

seems like asus cheaped out on the strix? less vrms than gigabyte and msi by looks of it.

kinda unsure which board to get new, asus has always been my go to because they've been feature rich, this feels like the opposite.
 
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