Official Rampage Extreme Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

BaronBlue said:
Throughout the day I receive the Gskill, and I will use for their testing only the "fresh Bios install".
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look forward to your feedback with the new GsKills.


This is some information taken from another forum (cut & paste) posted 14/8/08 by Tony OCZ:


Guys im going to jump in here, I do NOT have an RE yet but I know why certain IC's work on some boards and some do not.

DRIVE STENGTH

Samsung needs weak drive, much like the old TCCD did, Micron needs stronger drive, some of the IC's need really strong drive.

Talking to Praz who has been beating on the T2/3R for weeks now he mentioned the cellshock issues that DFI were having and how he got his to work...a massive increase in drive, he then mentioned he had found the sammy DDR3 needs next to no drive on the T3R where the micron needs a lot more drive.

So, those saying cheap and chearfull OCZ need to look at the bigger picture here, I have found all newer bios files on Asus boards are being tuned away from Micron and more to Samsung based modules, I spent 14 hrs tuning some sammy using 1.25V NB on the P5E3 Premium at 2000MHZ 8-8-8-26, the ONLY way this ram would stand a chance of doing this is if it needed next to no drive at all, with Micron running the exact same speeds I need 1.5V+ on the NB.

I asked Asus to add some kind of memory drive to the bios files on ther X48 Premium, they need to do the same on this board, so it gives the owners of Micron dimms a chance of hitting some awesome speeds, and those dimms that don't work to well will suddenly start clocking well

DFI did this ages ago with the NF4, I had a board purely tuned for TCCD, it would not even boot with Micron or Hynix DDR1, thank god they changed the boards prior to sale so it worked with everything.

Motherboard manufacturers are in a FSB race at the moment., along with that Asus have entered into a memory overclock race fueled by screenshots of 2500MHZ+ memory....ofcourse they want more as they have to win, hence why bios files are tuned around those dimms that do these incredible speeds.


So pester Asus to add DQ drive etc bios and the Micron based memory etc that may not work so well will stand a chance.


Second part of the post Tony further adds

The other item i want to clear up is the talk of D9JNL or D9GTR, this means absolutely NOTHING. Micron have die revisions every month, even different week codes of different IC's can make a huge difference.So just because you have JNL does not mean its going to be a good or bad clocker,It just means you have a specific build, nothing more. The specific die rev is what you need and the week code that goes with it, such as week 30 to 33 BH5 which did DDR500 with 2.8V, or one of the 4 or 5 good weeks of TCCD that did ddr600 2.5-3-3-8 with 2.6V.

email in trust if link requested for further reading
 
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Well, I have already made the first test with Gskill. Everything is very different now.
For 400/1600 i reach stability with only 1.30 Vcore, 1.19 VTT, 1.51 PLL, 1.34 Nb. Ram, all default settings: 7-7-7-18, Vdimm 1.90. CR: 1
Great!
Later i test some higher oc values.

(It seem that the Microns in Gskill need less drive strength than Microns in OCZ. Or perhaps the difference is in skews synchronization)
 
Ok i been having some problems with this board past few days using stock etc

1, 403 bios seem to be quite stable when i was in windows vista but it took me on average 12~boots before it would go past the bios then stopped working oO

2. 404 bios seemed to load stright away but would bsod in vista with the message varying from page fault in nonpaged area, memory management and another one.

3.I notice that my cpu is apprently at 100c oO which may be casueing it using the intel stock fan but somes times it says 64 oO so not sure if it is reading it correct or if the system thinks it is too high and shuts down so may go out and buy another heatsink tomorrow to see if it makes a differance.

my system spec is

Tagan 1300w | E8600 | Asus Rampage Extreme X48 | ATI 4870x2 CF
2x2Gb DDR3 PI PC2-12800C7 | 3 x Samsung 1TB | Vista 64bit |

I also tried using 1 card 1 stick of ram etc and gonna run memtest tmorow when i by some cds

any help would be appreciated
kind regards
tony
 
I've had issues with GSkill F3-12800CL7D-4GBPI, i've tried all bios, all slots and even XMP. Even at default cpu speed and mem at 1333 i couldn't boot sometimes. When i could boot properly mem test gave me no errors.
The trick to boot was turn the psu down and make a bios reset, if i don't do this it couldn't past from memory det on the lcd poster.
Now i'm on OCZ PC16000 2x2gb Platinum and for now with bios 301 don't have that issues, 403 had some issues like GSkill, if i had time this weekend i will try this mems and see what they could do.
OCZ have Samsung IC's.

Carefull with failed OC with bios 403, i've had set my vcore to 1,5 and the oc failed, when i went back to bios my vcore was at 1,9v :D and some other voltages where changed too.
 
BaronBlue said:
Well, I have already made the first test with Gskill. Everything is very different now.
For 400/1600 i reach stability with only 1.30 Vcore, 1.19 VTT, 1.51 PLL, 1.34 Nb. Ram, all default settings: 7-7-7-18, Vdimm 1.90. CR: 1
Great!
Later i test some higher oc values.
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Excellent news BB, looking forward to result and screenies:)



IS7Doji said:
Ok i been having some problems with this board past few days using stock etc
I notice that my cpu is apprently at 100c oO which may be casueing it using the intel stock fan but somes times it says 64 oO so not sure if it is reading it correct or if the system thinks it is too high and shuts down so may go out and buy another heatsink tomorrow to see if it makes a differance.

my system spec is

Tagan 1300w | E8600 | Asus Rampage Extreme X48 | ATI 4870x2 CF
2x2Gb DDR3 PI PC2-12800C7 | 3 x Samsung 1TB | Vista 64bit |

I also tried using 1 card 1 stick of ram etc and gonna run memtest tmorow when i by some cds

any help would be appreciated
kind regards
tony
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Hi and welcome to the thread,

Your temps are high. have you checked, or reseated the stock cooler? What software are you using to monitor your temps?

Temp software you can use read directly from the CPU die sensor is core temp (most commonly used) including HW monitor.

Down load core temp from here latest version

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/CoreTemp.zip

Also you can use CPUID HW monitor for sytem temps including CPU

64 bit http://www.cpuid.com/download/HWMonitor64_110.zip

As you mention it would be worth investing in a high end cooler especially if you intending to OC. Did you use the pre applied thermal paste on the intel stock fan? or remove and re-apply AS5?

Post back your results with above results with a screenies' using core temp idle and under load.
 
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MJRL said:
Carefull with failed OC with bios 403, i've had set my vcore to 1,5 and the oc failed, when i went back to bios my vcore was at 1,9v :D and some other voltages where changed too.
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Hi and welcome to the thread

The description you describe is reportedly the affect of Bios corruption. How is Bios 301 in terms of stability and OC'ing?

Do you have a link for Bios 301? as i am unable to locate on Asus bios update page for the Ramp Ex

Keep the thread updated as all information, results are useful to us all:)
 
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well temps are always the same underload and idle even in bios it says 63 or 100 used all those progs, i also applied articsilver and reseated the heatsink. gonna pop to the pc store near me to see what they have. Possible that the temp sensor is broken or something =\ just put my fan controller heat temp sensor (scythe) and shows 35c. Here is the image with the programs :)

http://is7.co.uk/files/TEMP.jpg
 
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There is a significant drop in temperatures overall. The new application of AS will require a "burn in period" and the temperatures will drop again once this process has taken place.

If you want to reduce temperatures even further, allowing OC head room it may be worth investing in this at some point http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...tra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler (Socket AM2/LGA775)

Are your Rams Gskill? Has memtest returned any errors?
 
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OK just finished my new system :D. Got 1 issue lol

One is very easy im sure, my CPU is cooled by water so is there any way to stop that annoying "CPU ERROR" on startup because it cant detect the CPU error.

Ill post pics later and benches of 2 x 4870X2 :D

Thanks for the help in advance
 
Matutu said:
OK just finished my new system :D. Got 1 issue lol

One is very easy im sure, my CPU is cooled by water so is there any way to stop that annoying "CPU ERROR" on startup because it cant detect the CPU error.

Ill post pics later and benches of 2 x 4870X2 :D

Thanks for the help in advance
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In the Bios settings there should be an option to disable fan setting for CPU.

Look forward to your updates
 
Matutu said:
OK just finished my new system :D. Got 1 issue lol

One is very easy im sure, my CPU is cooled by water so is there any way to stop that annoying "CPU ERROR" on startup because it cant detect the CPU error.

Ill post pics later and benches of 2 x 4870X2 :D

Thanks for the help in advance
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that will be because you dont have a fan plugged into the CPU Fan port.

plug something into it or disable it in the bios
 
CyZMyAssBaby said:
There is a significant drop in temperatures overall. The new application of AS will require a "burn in period" and the temperatures will drop again once this process has taken place.

If you want to reduce temperatures even further, allowing OC head room it may be worth investing in this at some point http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...tra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler (Socket AM2/LGA775)

Are your Rams Gskill? Has memtest returned any errors?
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just about to use memtest :) will post update. bsoded trying to burn it "system service exception and irql not less or equal" Gonna be water cooling at the end of the month when my case mods have been comleted.
 
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