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Official RX580,RX570,RX560 and RX550 series review thread

I am not insulting AMD but why AMD you put effort even to make this 5XX series? It is called wasting your limited resources. 5XX should have not existed.
 
You'd have thought the release of the same basic card at higher clocks would result in a cheaper product, but doesn't seem that way given the discounts on the 4xx series.
 
Let us be thankful once again for the existence of Nvidia, providing consumers with real upgrades year on year.
 
I think people have to remember that this is the most powerful card in the segment. Power consumption ain't everything. What the 580 does offer is better next Gen Api performance, more memory and Faster overall. I would hazard a guess that these factors are more important than using some extra juice.
 
Once again... above 300? Just buy a 1070 and be done with it. lol. I just sold my 1070, but there is no way in hell I am gonna be buying at these ludicrous prices.
 
Doom112 said:
I am not insulting AMD but why AMD you put effort even to make this 5XX series? It is called wasting your limited resources. 5XX should have not existed.
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AMD hope to dupe unsuspecting buyers. RX580 sounds lieka whole generation better than RX480. People in BestBuy see the the that 5 is bigger than 4 so the card must be newer, better and faster and so its worth paying the price premium.
 
Ayahuasca said:
The performance, however, would be poor and still nowhere near anything nVidia are offering atm.
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Yes exactly, as i said they are using a smaller GPU than the last gen, the 390X had 2816 Shaders, the 4/580 has 2304, they need to make up that deficit with Mhz, increasing Mhz has a much bigger impact on power consumption than adding Shaders, especially if those Mhz take it over its 'golden zone', the 480 and now the 580 are way over that ideal balance of Mhz and power.
 
This is what will happen:
1.)Outrage at the launch
2.)Most people considering an AMD card will buy the RX470/RX480 cards at lower prices since they are cheaper
3.)Older GTX1060 cards will probably also be discounted due to the slightly newer version being released,so people wanting a Nvidia card will get those
4.)Eventually the "new" RX580 and "new" GTX1060 will drop down a bit in RRP once stocks of the old cards are finished
5.)Everything will go back to normal
6.)People will move over to Vega being a fail or Nvidia being a fail or something else
 
TheRealDeal said:
I think people have to remember that this is the most powerful card in the segment. Power consumption ain't everything. What the 580 does offer is better next Gen Api performance, more memory and Faster overall. I would hazard a guess that these factors are more important than using some extra juice.
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I think the disappointment is that a year on, the performance-for-the-dollar hasn't improved.

When Nvidia refreshed the 680 as the 770, they at least reduced the price by $100 and moved it down a rung in the ladder.

A 580 doesn't offer anybody who was waiting to upgrade a compelling reason to do so anymore than the 480 did on release ten months ago.
 
Personally I think AMD have done ok with the RX580. It is never going to top the benching charts but that is not the point, it is a good solid mid range card that comes with a nice performance improvement over the RX480.

Companies can not just sell high end products, they do need good solid mid range ones too.
 
Kaapstad said:
Personally I think AMD have done ok with the RX580. It is never going to top the benching charts but that is not the point, it is a good solid mid range card that comes with a nice performance improvement over the RX480.

Companies can not just sell high end products, they do need good solid mid range ones too.
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I think the RX 480 and now the RX 580 are a symptom of AMD having little money for R&D, i think that is a real shame. BUT....

It looks to me the RX 480 is a beefed up die shrunk Tonga architecture, what was originally the 380X, but improved on colour compression and tessellation culling, Tonga was actually AMD's first architecture to have that.

Anyway, i hope AMD's reason for not really spending any money on new GPU's is the same reason they never realy spent any money on new CPU's in the last 5 years, in that they put everything into Ryzen, and it was worth it, lets hope Vega is getting all the money and it is the GPU equivalent of Ryzen.
 
Seanspeed said:
I think the disappointment is that a year on, the performance-for-the-dollar hasn't improved.

When Nvidia refreshed the 680 as the 770, they at least reduced the price by $100 and moved it down a rung in the ladder.

A 580 doesn't offer anybody who was waiting to upgrade a compelling reason to do so anymore than the 480 did on release ten months ago.
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Yea that's true and seems to be the case for a while now with this segment and the lower tiers. Gains ain't coming fast at all. Nvidia will be doing the same with the 1060. Most likely a small core boost and some faster memory to catch back up. The RX580 is just what i thought it would be apart from the power consumption.
 
Seanspeed said:
I think the disappointment is that a year on, the performance-for-the-dollar hasn't improved.

When Nvidia refreshed the 680 as the 770, they at least reduced the price by $100 and moved it down a rung in the ladder.

A 580 doesn't offer anybody who was waiting to upgrade a compelling reason to do so anymore than the 480 did on release ten months ago.
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Exactly.

AMD needs to get consumers to buy the cards, and unless they make them attractive over the already known 1060, that just ain't gonna happen.
 
humbug said:
I think the RX 480 and now the RX 580 are a symptom of AMD having little money for R&D, i think that is a real shame. BUT....

It looks to me the RX 480 is a beefed up die shrunk Tonga architecture, what was originally the 380X, but improved on colour compression and tessellation culling, Tonga was actually AMD's first architecture to have that.

Anyway, i hope AMD's reason for not really spending any money on new GPU's is the same reason they never realy spent any money on new CPU's in the last 5 years, in that they put everything into Ryzen, and it was worth it, lets hope Vega is getting all the money and it is the GPU equivalent of Ryzen.
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All you can ask of a card is for it to be faster than its rivals from NVidia and this is something the RX580 does when compared to the GTX 1060.:)
 
The good thing here for AMD is the launch seems to have went fine where reviews are concerned with no real flaws in the cards as of yet. With them calling this card the RX580 it gets them away from the rx480's few Stigma's and it reinforces the Rx580 as the best option in the price segment. I still see it branded around that the rx480 is hot and loud as well.
 
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