****Official SFL (diddy) League 2012 - 13****

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Coverage of the lower Scottish League teams in here. Not really sure how many lower league supporters there are outwith the newly formed Division 3 Rangers.

Anyway, first matches of the league commence on Saturday in all three divisions :-

Divison 1

15:00 Cowdenbeath v Dunfermline Athletic Central Park
15:00 Greenock Morton v Livingston Cappielow Park
15:00 Partick Thistle v Falkirk Firhill Stadium
15:00 Raith Rovers v Hamilton Academical Stark's Park
15:00 Airdrie United v Dumbarton Excelsior Stadium

Division 2

15:00 Alloa Athletic v East Fife Recreation Park
15:00 Ayr United v Stenhousemuir Somerset Park
15:00 Brechin City v Albion Rovers Glebe Park
15:00 Queen of the South v Forfar Athletic Palmerston Park
15:00 Stranraer v Arbroath Stair Park

Division 3

12:45 Peterhead v Rangers Balmoor Stadium - Televised
15:00 Berwick Rangers v Elgin City Shielfield Park
15:00 East Stirlingshire v Queen's Park Ochilview Park
15:00 Montrose v Clyde Links Park Stadium
15:00 Stirling Albion v Annan Athletic Forthbank Stadium

For my team, Brechin, we'll have to up the performance after the weekends 4 - 0 defeat against Stenhousemuir in the League Cup. It was a disappointing day after good pre season performances against ICT as well as an extra time game against the Newco in the Communities Cup. Playing against Albion Rovers, who scraped the division 2 playoffs to retain their place in the league I would hope for a fairly easy home win but with last weeks performance against Stenny looking like a hangover from much of our season last year it has the fans worried already!

Any of the other fans like to chip in or will be i updating this on my own! :p
 
Looking forward to the start of the season with Falkirk on Saturday and then Queens Park in the Challenge Cup on the 14th. Hoping for a strong challenge to the title though I think Falkirk are favourites this year.
 
Will be priceless to see The Rangers celebrate a Ramsdens Cup success like they had just won a meaningful trophy..if they can win it of course.

But, anything less than a 36-0 win record in Divs 3 & 2 will be embarrassing condisering the money being thrown at the team. seems no matter what div they are in they need to spend 1000% more to guarantee success.

I would have thought Murray Park would be producing decent talent after all these years but I guess not.
 
SFL kick-off like no other
By Clive Lindsay BBC Scotland

It will be a season like no other as the Scottish Football League kicks off with arguably more attention focused on Division Three than the battle for promotion to the Scottish Premier League.

Rangers' financial collapse means the club has emerged under new owners but been forced to start life in the bottom tier.

But, whereas the First Division is typically difficult to predict, the only imponderables in Division Three are how many points by which Rangers will win the title and how many times their collection of highly-paid full-time professionals find the net against part-time opponents.

Rangers, who have lost a host of international players but added others with top-tier experience, eased aside Second Division side East Fife 4-0 in the Scottish Communities League Cup in midweek and former Ibrox striker Billy Dodds thought the performance hinted of what was to come.

"We played them the other night there with East Fife, I go in there to coach a couple of nights a week, and the gulf in class - and that was a Second Divison team - is enormous," he said.

However, another Second Division outfit, Brechin City, took Rangers to extra-time the previous week before losing 2-1 in the Ramsdens Cup at Glebe Park and former Celtic midfielder Murdo MacLeod thought it could be typical of away games for the Ibrox men this season.
Martin Hardie celebrates scoring for Morton after leaving Dunfermline

Martin Hardie celebrates scoring for Morton after leaving Dunfermline

"Peterhead played Celtic in the Cup the same day as Arbroath played Rangers last season and they made it tough," he said.

"I don't think they'll get tough games at Ibrox, but away from home it is always going to be difficult as teams will be up for it."

Indeed, Rangers' first opponents, Peterhead, took Dundee to penalty kicks before the Premier League newcomers progressed in the League Cup.

The Blue Toon were last year's Division Three big spenders yet failed to win promotion, but this time it is really is all about who finishes in the play-off places for promotion behind runaway leaders.

Annan Athletic faded last season but have started brightly again, knocking First Division Livingston out of the Ramsdens Cup.

With their surprise League Cup defeat of First Division Airdrie United, Queen's Park will hope that, as last season's runners-up, they will feature again despite the amateurs losing their usual quota of players to the professional ranks.

Montrose knocked Division Two champions Cowdenbeath out of the League Cup and even East Stirlingshire, who finished bottom, showed promise by surprising Ayr United in the Ramsdens Cup.

In contrast to Division Three, early-season cup form suggests that the race for the one promotion spot - and title - in Division One is wide open.

Dunfermline Athletic should start as favourites having been an SPL side last season, but it is notoriously difficult to downsize and maintain a promotion push and they have already suffered a surprise Ramsdens Cup defeat by Second Division Forfar Athletic.

Manager Jim Jefferies has since strengthened, having been forced into a late start by the uncertainty of whether Rangers' demise would mean a late reprieve from relegation.

Three Pars players are among a host of experienced signings made by Morton manager Allan Moore that suggest the Greenock side could do a lot better than flirt with relegation this time round and could be surprise champions.

St Mirren midfielder Jim Goodwin said: "We played Morton in a pre-season friendly and, I tell you, they have added some really good experience there.
Willie Gibson is now playing for Queen of the South in Division Two

Willie Gibson is now playing for Queen of the South in Division Two

"Big Mark McLaughlin at centre half, Martin Hardie, midfielder, been there and done it.

"If they can get the boy McDonald fit up front, he will guarantee you goals up front in that division.

"I think they are outsiders and are my dark horse for this year."

However, MacLeod is tipping another former Celt to lead another Glasgow club to glory.

"I wonder if Partick Thistle are going to have a wee run this year," he said.

"I think, if they can get off to a decent start, a bit of confidence about the club, the fans will turn up if the team is playing well.

"I just think this could maybe be the year for Jackie McNamara."

Falkirk and Hamilton Accies will again rely heavily on the talent emerging from their youth academies.

Dodds suggested: "Falkirk will be up there again and will be there or thereabouts, because they play nice football.

"It just depends on whether the young boys there have enough experience to see them over the line."

The experienced and high-profile new management duo of John Hughes and John Collins will hope that their 8-0 hammering of Stranraer in the League Cup is more typical of their form than the defeat by Third Division Annan that came a week before in the Ramsdens Cup.

Airdrie United won their Ramsdens Cup derby against Hamilton but were themselves knocked out the League Cup by Queen's Park.

Cowdenbeath's loss to Montrose and struggle to beat Second Division Alloa Athletic in the Ramsdens Cup, on top of Dumbarton's home defeat by Queen of the South the same day, sugggests all three promoted sides will struggle.

Likewise, Raith Rovers, who only edged out Berwick Rangers 4-3 in the League Cup and were given a fright by Highland League outfit Wick Academy in the Ramsdens.

In terms of fan base, Queen of the South are the Rangers of Division Two and the Dumfries outfit have emerged as early favourites to bounce straight back up after Cup wins over Alloa and Dumbarton.

Alloa have themselves added some players with top-level experience as they look to build on last season's Third Division glory and are Goodwin's tips for a second title in a row.

"If Alloa can maintain the momentum they had last year and carry that into this season, I think they've got a really good chance," he said.

"I went to watch them a couple of times last season - my brother in law plays at Clyde - and I was very impressed with them.

"They have got some good experienced players and Paul Hartley has another year under his belt as manager."

However, Arbroath, Forfar and Stenhousemuir have also all made some astute signings, while Ayr will expect a quick return to Division One, which should ensure another close battle for the title and the promotion play-off places.

With the presence of Rangers likely to boost the finances of their Third Division rivals, the SPL's loss could just be the SFL's gain in increased profile and excitement - and a sharing of the wealth - in the coming seasons.

BBC gone to town over the lower divisions......normal service will resume soon enough though with terrible reporters getting everything lower than the SPL wrong ;)

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Latest news on Brechin is that we've got 12 fit players for todays game against Albion Rovers :(
 
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Rangers lucky to get the point today with Kyle scoring in last minute of injury time finishing 2-2. Guess it's not going to be as easy for Rangers winning the title as some sections of the media think. :)
 
I'll take a one nil win from today with a thread bare team. Albion Rovers really are a bunch of cart horses though. Surprised they didn't get more bookings. Terrible challenges from start to finish.
 
Rangers lucky to get the point today with Kyle scoring in last minute of injury time finishing 2-2. Guess it's not going to be as easy for Rangers winning the title as some sections of the media think. :)

Rangers will win the league, but they will drop points, not many, but they will. For every other third division team it is like a cup final.
 
Could i get a bit of clarification on this please Rotty. My comment was deleted because Sectarian chanting by idiots off the pitch has nothing to do with football but topics such as the John Terry Racist Trial is ok because its to do with the idiots on the park doing things which are unacceptable? Or topics like Petrov's Leukemia is ok because its to do with a footballer rather than a fan? I dont want to be posting valid points which the lower leagues dont want associated with their clubs because of one half of the old (or should that be new and old) firm.
 
I think we are sticking to the same rules as the SPL thread :) unfortunately the Scottish threads have had to be subject to different treatment due to the way things have gone in the past, a shame really as it probably isn't the fault of the majority
 
I won't speak for Rotty but I'd presume here that the problem is mentioning sectarianism and/or the behaviour of other fans which is expressly forbidden as per the rules in the SPL thread. If you take it as read that all those rules apply in here as well then that's probably not a bad idea.

As for the other topics relating to John Terry and Stilian Petrov - they're a) relating to individual footballers rather than a club and b) the threads about English clubs haven't displayed the same tendencies to derail so wildly on such a regular basis. That's not to say they're always perfect of course but simply that SPL and related threads have a marked propensity for going wrong if there's much leeway given so by making the restrictions explicit this is hopefully forestalled to a large extent. Perhaps in the future this can be relaxed but it would require a considerable period where it was demonstrated to be ok - it's a pity for a number of fans who can hold reasonable discussions about more contentious topics but since they're reasonable I'd hope they can also understand why these measures are taken.

Hopefully that clarifies it a bit but if not feel free to email me and ask anything further as I don't want to take this thread too far off topic.

//edit I could have saved myself a bit of typing if I'd refreshed the page before posting. :o
 
Rangers will win the league, but they will drop points, not many, but they will. For every other third division team it is like a cup final.

I have a feeling Rangers might not get promoted this season. I don't think they are prepared properly for Division 3 and it might take them until Christmas to properly get to grips with it.
 
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