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*** Official SONOS Thread ***

Discussion in 'Home Cinema & Hi-Fi' started by RoyMi6, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. kinger8938

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    Hi guys. I've been toying with the idea of improving my TV sound by getting either a sound bar or speaker set up.

    I saw glowing Reviews for the Beam but have seen some suggestions that for the money I could get a much better system?

    I do currently have a Sonos One so I guess if I got the Beam I would be 1 step away from using a set of Ones as rears in a wireless surround sort of set up.

    I'm basically here for suggestions and advice. It will be used for gaming via a PS4 and general use for TV and Movies

    Thanks in advance, in terms of budget as I was looking at a beam at £400 let's say no higher than that as even that's almost a bit much for me but happy to spend it if it's really that good

    *Should add if bought at a store my partner works at I get 12.5% off making the Beam £350 same applies to alternatives if bought there
     
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  2. signs

    Wise Guy

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    if you don't mind wires , go second hand and get an amp and speakers , much better field of sound
     
  3. TALON1973

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    Depends on space as well. I can’t put hifi speakers in my room . The beam is perfect for my current needs. Ordered it via my works scheme , so I pay it off each month in my wages. Arrives in 9 days
     
  4. kinger8938

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    Nice. I do think a full 5 speaker wired set up wouldn't suit me really for space reasons etc
     
  5. Admiral Huddy

    Don

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    I love my Sonos setup (sound base + 2 x Ones). I'm no audio geek but the setup is punchy and crystal clear when needed, particularly in voice. With the benefit of no wires, and portability of the ONE's they are a no brainier.


    I've been reading great reports about the Beam. If it's better than the Base, you won't be disappointed.
     
  6. Psycho Sonny

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    avforums has a best buy section for soundbars. none of sonos's stuff has ever made it into the list.

    they do however make the wireless speaker list.

    your best bet is to use their best buy guide to pick a soundbar.
     
  7. lucid

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    And yet Sonos remains one of the most popular sound bar brands. IIRC, there was a point where Sonos Playbar was outselling every other single-product sound bar on the market.

    In techncal terms, Playback and Playback are well off the pace for connectivity and audio processing. God knows I have argued enough times that the bar + sub + rears is an expensive way to do surround, and that much better results can be had with a receiver + speaker package. Having said that, there's a lot of people that don't care and that don't read AV Forums or any av/hi-fi sites. They've been buying Sonos.

    The new Beam product addresses some of the shortcomings of Bar and Base. The inclusion of HDMI with ARC is long overdue. Maybe AV Forums will catch up with what the general public is buying; or maybe it won't. I suspect that either way it'll make little or no appreciable difference to Sonos sales.
     
  8. kinger8938

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    What is ARC then in basic terms? I have a ks7000 not sure if it supports ignore not I'll have a look
     
  9. lucid

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    ARC stands for Audio Return Channel. It's a way of getting sound from a TV via the HDMI connection.

    It's the newer version of Optical Audio if you like, but it adds some control functionality via HDMI Control (HDMI CEC / BraviaSync/ Anynet+/ etc where manufacturers have their own name for it) that isn't possible with Optical. For example, linking the power command so everything comes on when one device is woken, and volume control of the sound bar via the TV remote or some other device remote.
     
  10. kinger8938

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    Thanks for the info! Sounds like it solves some of the hassle I found with a sound bar in the past. Constantly switching remotes, turning it all off and on separately etc.

    So close to pulling the trigger on a Beam just get mixed feedback on better systems for the money but at £350 (with a bit of discount) it seems a fair price for what it is.
     
  11. lucid

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    I think with Sonos the value depends on whether you want their solution to home multiroom.

    There are competing products that sound on a par for less money, or that offer more features e.g. a wireless sub in with the price, but no other company has yet been able to match the way the Sonos ecosystem works and how easy it is to use and to grow without it costing more.

    As I wrote before, Beam is the first Sonos soundbar product with HDMI, and that's a long overdue feature at this price point. It sounds good too. So for the money, and IMO, it's a sweet spot product.
     
  12. kinger8938

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    I'm in a funny spot as I Have a Sonos One. I don't really need multiroom but I'm tempted to go with the Beam and spend another 200 in a few months time to get another One and use them as Rears. But if there's better out there for the money I should maybe look elsewhere. It Just seems as I'm already one steam towards the rears I may aswell go that route, I don't know :D
     
  13. M1k3H

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    The only downside I found is, if you move the Ones you then have to re-do the Trueplay calibration, so I've stopped moving them.

    Do you do that every time you move them?
     
  14. kinger8938

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    Screw it ordered the Beam this evening for collection tomorrow :) I'm sure it will be plenty good enough for me!
     
  15. kinger8938

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    Got my beam.. currently trying to set it up to a Samsung KS7000. It's connected to the ARC HDMI slot both ends, and CEC Is enabled in the TV settings but the Beam just isn't detecting it. Keeps failing at the CEC section on the settings. It says it can't detect the make/model of my TV even.

    So not really sure what's wrong. I've tried turning it all off and on, 're doing the connections etc but it's just not happening :( any tips?

    *for now I have used the optical cable instead of the HDMI Arc and it's now working. The guy in Twitter talked me through setting up my remote for volume etc.

    So other than voice controls, what would I be missing if I can't get ARC working?
     
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  16. ChrisD.

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    Are all the outputs on the TV CEC enabled?
     
  17. kinger8938

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    I don't know tbh! It only has one HDMI ARC socket so that's the one I was trying it in for that reason, when I plugged it in, it did auto switch the tv to display that hdmi cables channel if that makes sense. So its picking up something i guess!
     
  18. ChrisD.

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    Have you tried a different HDMI cable?
     
  19. kinger8938

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    Yeah that was also suggested by the Sonos chap on Twitter so did that but still no luck unfortunatly :(
     
  20. TALON1973

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    My beam is turning up Friday.... Does it come with a hdmi lead?
     
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