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Soldato
It might be the first time we see SONOS jail broken there has never really been any motivation before but this has just handed that reason to the hackers on a plate so maybe unforeseen outcomes for SONOS from this. They are in a tricky situation as obviously they can't support hardware forever, nobody does and plenty of the big players in the tech market to the artificial obsolescence thing (Looking at you Apple and all smart TV companies) but they are going to have to seriously rethink the position around devices running different software versions as they are saying to anyone with an existing setup that contains a now legacy product that they can't add any new devices as they will ship with the wrong software. They also need to look at how long they are keeping a device in support after they stop making it less than 5 years seems ridiculous for an audio product.
Interesting times ahead for SONOS me thinks
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Yeah custom firmware on devices plus custom phone app and pc software will sort out any short comings.
Brother has a Sonos connect soxodnt think he'll be happy with the news, since he wanted multi room. So now he would have to replace the connect with the new model, otherwise new and old won't play function on the same system.
Brother has a Sonos connect soxodnt think he'll be happy with the news, since he wanted multi room. So now he would have to replace the connect with the new model, otherwise new and old won't play function on the same system.
Caporegime
Considering theres a lot of competition in the home audio device market with Google/Amazon/Apple and the other traditional hifi players you'd have thought making very anti-consumer moves would be a bad plan.
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Hifi streamers typically use upnp/dnla? So require host service on Nas/desktop.
Whereas Sonos (and squeezebox) is own system, but one is open the other isn't (service and control)
Whereas Sonos (and squeezebox) is own system, but one is open the other isn't (service and control)
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No upgrade for a bridge, goodbye Sonos :/
Why do you need the Bridge?
Yeah that’s the worry, for example if the wife’s phone pops up with an app update does that then stuff the system up? :/
Soldato
Nope, play 1s are fine, it’s just the previos Amp, Connect and Play 5.
The connect is replaced by the port https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/port.html
Caporegime
If they use the same 10 years as they apply to the Play:5 then the Play:1 will EoL late 2023.
Thanks for this post. We've been using a couple of 3s with a bridge for about 7 years. Had no idea they'd work without the bridge but this post made me wonder. Quick google and 10 mins later we're bridge free. One less plug and router socket used.
Hoping the 3s won't be obselete soon though.
Caporegime
Play:3 was released just a year after the Play:5 so they'll be on the hit list soon if Sonos doesnt see sense.
Wouldn't be surprised and it's in mind. We were looking at adding a few of the modern 1s soon and that's gonna be on hold.
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I didn’t know a bridge wasn’t required anymore (if ever!), I set Sonos up years ago and only play stuff on it occasionally via Roon. Still can’t group zones though so I think I’ll get shut while play ones are still supported.
Ok so I have a Play One just now in the kitchen, I was thinking for a minute I would need to get another so I had two of them to replace my original Play 1's. I have been wondering when the original Playbar will be replaced as I only just got all this stuff about a year ago, Playbar, Sub and Play 1's :/
Soldato
Totally agree, they need phase out the old hardware eventually but this move is the wrong way to go about it. If they continue with the same age length cut offs this will hit them really hard as their sales exploded with the play1/3 release. This current process doesn’t hit anything like as many as future ones will.
I am seriously tempted to sell my play:3 as Sonos have shown no love for the model!
Thanks to Chris [BEANS] for your reply to my questions.
It's disapointing, but not suprising new. If you had an Apple product or even any other computer based bit of tech you would be in a similar situation with older products, stuff that's old no longer gets updates and becomes "legacy" (obselete), it's not just Sonos.
The more I have read on Sonos the more I have decided it's not for me. No BBC radio on tunein (not yet anyway), only SMB1 support for network stuff, wireless G only, airplay2 but no cast (I'm not an Apple user). No hi-res support is also annoying, I don't expect to hear any improvement on a Sonos over normal 16/44 audio, but other devices on my network benefit from it. I don't want to have to re-encode it and have multiple copies of things just for the sake of compatibility. I have ended up with a JBL link 300 as the ability to cast suits me much better. Sonos has it's uses and they are great, but they just don't work for what I need it for.
Dave
It's disapointing, but not suprising new. If you had an Apple product or even any other computer based bit of tech you would be in a similar situation with older products, stuff that's old no longer gets updates and becomes "legacy" (obselete), it's not just Sonos.
The more I have read on Sonos the more I have decided it's not for me. No BBC radio on tunein (not yet anyway), only SMB1 support for network stuff, wireless G only, airplay2 but no cast (I'm not an Apple user). No hi-res support is also annoying, I don't expect to hear any improvement on a Sonos over normal 16/44 audio, but other devices on my network benefit from it. I don't want to have to re-encode it and have multiple copies of things just for the sake of compatibility. I have ended up with a JBL link 300 as the ability to cast suits me much better. Sonos has it's uses and they are great, but they just don't work for what I need it for.
Dave
Soldato
BBC Radio is still available via tunein on Sonos the BBC who decide what is on tunein haven't found an alternative way to get radio streams to Sonos so haven't killed it yet (don't try using Voice Commands though as the BBC did ruin that). Sonos really is a convenience product so for a user like yourself who clearly has some particular network requirements and enjoys high res music then it is a pretty bad fit.
The real question I guess in the current circumstances is which other mainstream multi room audio system is going to give you a longer life time that Sonos on it's products none of the other big players have managed even as long as Sonos (Yes I know someone will come and push squeezebox but it's hardly mainstream). It will be interesting to see how long Google and Amazon keep updating older generation smart speakers for before they ditch them from support although obviously they have a different set of drivers being primarily interested in your data and selling other services to you not selling hardware.
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