*****Official Star Wars: The Old Republic Thread*****

Massively disappointed. I would be perfectly happy spending £50 on the game, but I don't then want to spend £15 every month just to play it. I was an enormous fan of KOTOR I and II, however this is already shaping up to be a failure for many fans. All I want is a single player game with nice graphics, the same play style and the same amazing storylines as they have managed to produce in the past. And a few references to some of the awesome characters from the previous games would be nice, I know HK-47 survives the whole Old Republic Era :).

All in all- I wanted KOTOR III, not TOR. Why they went MMO is completely beyond me (other than the massive profits of course!)

Hopefully BioWare will utilise this money to make a worthy sequel of the KOTOR series- I know they can do it!

Why you say £15 and not £8.99...has £15 been confirmed?

EDIT: I think if you can get the game for £30 or less then that seems ok for a game. Anymore then £30 tho is just stupid...you prob just need to shop around or wait a bit for prices to drop. I bet not long after release you'll be able to buy it from some websites for around £22 and download it straight away.

EDIT2: I know a lot of people loved KOTOR, so did I, but why everyone go on about it so much everytime another star wars game gets made?
 
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Why you say £15 and not £8.99...has £15 been confirmed?

EDIT: I think if you can get the game for £30 or less then that seems ok for a game. Anymore then £30 tho is just stupid...you prob just need to shop around or wait a bit for prices to drop. I bet not long after release you'll be able to buy it from some websites for around £22 and download it straight away.

EDIT2: I know a lot of people loved KOTOR, so did I, but why everyone go on about it so much everytime another star wars game gets made?

No, £15 has not been confirmed but my point is that I simply won't buy a game that has a monthly fee. Considering how good this game should be and the amount of development I would happily pay £50 one-off for the game, however I wouldn't pay monthly.

The reason people are going on about KOTOR is that TOR is kinda gearing itself up as a sequel to the KOTOR series. It's developed by BioWare, has similar ideas, based on the same themes and is generally very similar. Thing is, I don't see why a game like KOTOR would be enjoyed as a multiplayer game, it's simply not that kind of game.
 
There are many people who are happy with an MMO star wars game that are happy to pay a monthly fee, and if you don't want to pay a monthly fee then chances are that this game wasn't made for people like you in mind. There are some things that you simply need a monthly fee for, and without that monthly fee there won't be a constantly evolving multiplayer world, there will just be KOTOR, which although was nice was just static and once you have compleated it there is little content left to do.

A one off fee simply doesn't cover the costs of some of the amazing things that can be done with an MMO, and when you compare the ammount of game time most players get out of an MMO that monthly fee can easily be justified.
 
I think that the price of the editions of this game are ridiculous, especially the digital download. Totalbiscuit explains this clearly in this video HERE. (8 mins in)

Spot on from TB, to think people actually rush into pre orders incase they run out of stock on a digital download and charging a lot for it really boggles my mind. It angers me more when people think it is acceptable simply because "its star wars".... Seems like people get payed too much or lack common sense these days.

Even if you go on the notion that you want to be one of the first to play it, what do you get out of it?, your more likely to be matched with people rushing content to get to new areas rather than enjoying the game, I'd wager that you would have a better experience with the game if you waited a little after release, its not like there wont be massive amounts of new players around anyway. I bet EA are laughing their socks off at people buying into all the hype etc and paying extreme prices, rich get richer. :o
 
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There are many people who are happy with an MMO star wars game that are happy to pay a monthly fee, and if you don't want to pay a monthly fee then chances are that this game wasn't made for people like you in mind. There are some things that you simply need a monthly fee for, and without that monthly fee there won't be a constantly evolving multiplayer world, there will just be KOTOR, which although was nice was just static and once you have compleated it there is little content left to do.

A one off fee simply doesn't cover the costs of some of the amazing things that can be done with an MMO, and when you compare the ammount of game time most players get out of an MMO that monthly fee can easily be justified.

It is a shame though that there is no way an online game can constantly evolve the multiplayer world without having to have a monthly fee. If only someone could come up with some kind of MMO game which didnt have monthly fees yet still put out regular content patches and expansions. :)
 
World of Warcraft had no trouble getting a ridiculous number of people to stump up a monthly fee. I doubt it entered BioWare's mind to cater to the people who aren't at all willing to do so.
 
There are MMOs that don't have a monthly fee, but I've yet to see one that I consider as good value for money as one that does have a monthly fee. For less than 35p a day you get your monies worth with good MMOs IMO, I mean look at the ammount of free content EVE online, DAoC and WoW have given players. Yes they do have payed expansion packs, but they also add in free content in patches that very few games do, and its because of the money they make from a monthly fee that allows them to do that.

If you don't like a monthly fee then there are plenty of other games you can play, this one isn't for you.
 
The monthly fee doesn't bother me, but equally having one doesn't guarantee a quality mmo with its fee either. I've played free mmos and I've played pay mmos. There have been some free ones which have been awful and there have been some free ones that I've played longer than some pay ones. There have been some pay ones which have been awful and there have been some pay ones I've played longer than some free ones.
 
Guild Wars/Guild Wars 2 :)

Which is going to have MT from what the devs have said. Though I am expecting MT in SWTOR - they will push for every penny they can make. It's a bit like the recent Eve drama and in fairness CCP made a good point - people moan about it but at the end of the day they pay it or enough of them do to make it worthwhile. Aint like MMOs are expensive compared to going to the cinema or night out on the razzle on a £ per hr comparison.
 
These prices aren't really that bad. I happily paid (well, parents did for birthday/ xmas ) £60 for Golden eye, Perfect Dark, mario kart, and Donkey Kong etc on my old N64.

This game has the potential to assimilate hrs and hrs of our time. Heck, if I went into town tonight I would have spunked £70 easy. I have loads of games I have paid money (albeit mostly in steam sales) and aren't even installed.

Just a little perspective.
 
I've not kept up with this as I got annoyed with no solid release date. To sum up, is it a single player focused RPG type for the first part and then it opens up into MMO stuff?
 
people moan about it but at the end of the day they pay it or enough of them do to make it worthwhile.

That right there sums up gamers.

Gamers moan a game is too expensive, but they still buy it. Gamers moan that an mmo is boring but they still pay monthly to play it. Gamers moan about sequels and lack of original games but they still buy them. Gamers moan about console ports and buggy releases but they still buy them. Gamers moan about games which are clones of other games but they still buy them.

I mean where is the incentive for the devs and game companies to do something else? I do wonder at times if everyone just said no, no we've had enough and didn't just keep buying it whether the companies would change. Course it will never happen because its as good as impossible to unite people in that way, but as a topical example, take the sw:tor CE , one wonders, if every single gamer said no, I'm not paying a penny more than 70 quid for it, would we suddenly see the CE at 70 quid or would they stick to their guns and just keep all the CEs sat in a warehouse.
 
These prices aren't really that bad. I happily paid (well, parents did for birthday/ xmas ) £60 for Golden eye, Perfect Dark, mario kart, and Donkey Kong etc on my old N64.

This game has the potential to assimilate hrs and hrs of our time. Heck, if I went into town tonight I would have spunked £70 easy. I have loads of games I have paid money (albeit mostly in steam sales) and aren't even installed.

Just a little perspective.

Yeah I never did understand console game prices, they so often seemed to be stupidly high to me, you'd get like a pc version of the game for 25 quid and the console version of the same game would be 54.99. As above though, if people pay it, why change it :)

If I went into town tonight I'd spend £0.00 , well, maybe 4 quid on a burger :D
 
Well then it's a shame that people are dumb enough to preorder a game which costs £40/£50, is still in a very closed beta with a strict NDA which implies that bioware are trying to hide something.

hide what? They just don't want the game leaked all over the internet

Turbine have just announced beta for the new expansion for LOTRO with strict NDA rules too, same thing applies they don't want it leaked all over the net!

Why do people think because a company puts strict NDA's in place they hiding something?
 
hide what? They just don't want the game leaked all over the internet

Turbine have just announced beta for the new expansion for LOTRO with strict NDA rules too, same thing applies they don't want it leaked all over the net!

Why do people think because a company puts strict NDA's in place they hiding something?

They are trying to hide the secret of midichlorian creation ! :)
 
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