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WJA96 said:
Heck yes. For the price of a fairly poor Unifi camera you can have something like a HikVision ColorVu or a Dahua TiOC. The 8MP TiOC lists at about £125+VAT and it's a full PoE IP camera that not only has full colour night vision but is a simple audible/visual alarm as well. For me, just based on night vision, I prefer the £110+VAT 5MP TiOC which can see out to 40m in the dark rather than the 20m of the 8MP version but in either case the build quality, features and image quality utterly destroy anything that UBNT sell in their Unifi camera line-up.
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I agree that the ubiquiti cameras are far too expensive and not good enough, what CCtv software do you use to control them? We’re moving house soon and I’ll need several new cameras. The real advantage of Unifi for me has been integrating the cameras into my network, and Protect, whilst definitely not brilliant is decent.
 
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Should I drop Ubiquiti entirely? I’ve got a number of switches, a usg, and a few WAPs. I like Unifi, but the kit is expensive, and I’ll need a bunch of cameras, amongst other things. My USG will need replacing soon and a house move is a good point to do it, so looking at the USG pro but then also wondering if it’s worth the expense.

The house will not be on fibre for roughly a year, so I plan on installing a 4g router. https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/39507-zyxel-lte7460-m608-eu01v3f/ Probably as it looks like a good option. I take it this will just connect to the wan port on the usg as any other connection?

longterm though, as the area is slated for fibre install to start Q3 this year I will want to use it as a backup connection for work, so think the USG pro suited well for this, but is there a newer alternative that will take 2 wans?
 
If you’re thinking of a break from UniFi can I suggest you look at the QNAP QGD-1600P or QGD-1602P Guardian? They are a little bit of a NAS, a bit of an NVR, a bit of a PoE switch, a bit of a VM box and a bit of a router. The VMs can run Untangle, Mikrotik RouterOS or UniFi controller. Or all three if you like. You get 8 camera licences for the Surveillance Station system and it’s good software with a Mobile App that works well when you are away from home.

While I’m not that enamoured of UBNT at the moment, their access points in general are still pretty much the ones to have and I wouldn’t ditch those if I were you.
 
WJA96 said:
If you’re thinking of a break from UniFi can I suggest you look at the QNAP QGD-1600P or QGD-1602P Guardian? They are a little bit of a NAS, a bit of an NVR, a bit of a PoE switch, a bit of a VM box and a bit of a router. The VMs can run Untangle, Mikrotik RouterOS or UniFi controller. Or all three if you like. You get 8 camera licences for the Surveillance Station system and it’s good software with a Mobile App that works well when you are away from home.

While I’m not that enamoured of UBNT at the moment, their access points in general are still pretty much the ones to have and I wouldn’t ditch those if I were you.
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No I’ll definitely keep the waps and just adopt them alongside any solution I end up with. The 1602P says 4 licences only but thats a good starting point. Not seen the Surveillance station software but I'll check it out.

Does the qnap power Unifi waps? Or are they still using a proprietary power supply.

As I am also needing to replace a server, something with nas built in sounds attractive. I’ll have a look, thanks.
 
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the-evaluator said:
It's impossible to answer that question with any certainty. It's very depenant on things such as the structure of the building, placement and config of the AP and the surrounding RF environment. So it's possible it will, but also possible it won't.

No reason why you can't disable wifi on the Sky router. I'd recommend you do that.
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Thanks, yeah I realise it's a question with a lot of variables but I thought it was a fairly powerful device. The house is detached and there shouldn't be much overlap, with any neighbours signal anyway.

Will do some more research on options.
 
It's not just about the AP being a powerful device. Let's say you crank the output power on the AP enough that the signal reaches everywhere you want it to. Great! But that doesn't mean that the device talking back to the AP will be heard by the AP. The AP could be shouting, the device whispering.

There really are too many variables to be able to give a definitive answer. A single well placed and well configured AP in my house wasn't enough to give me coverage everywhere even though it's a detached house with very minimal overlap from the neighbours.

I'd say get that single AP up and running and see how you go. If you need another AP then get another AP. That's what I did.
 
Armageus said:
AFAIK all current models use either 802.3af POE or 802.3at POE+ (whereas most of the older versions needed proprietary POE injectors)
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There have been no passive 24V-only access points since September 2016, so I'd say it's unlikely it won't support 48V PoE. There are two UBNT access points that need 90W 802.3bt PoE++ and they are the two -XG models. The ones with the 10GbE interface. It's very unlikely that it will be one of those. I think I'm the only person who bought one.
 
Ah sweet ok so I can power my WAPs using either of those. Ok that certainly helps. @WJA96 do the QNaps come ready to handle pppoe connections or is it relatively straight forward to setup?
 
platypus said:
Ah sweet ok so I can power my WAPs using either of those. Ok that certainly helps. @WJA96 do the QNaps come ready to handle pppoe connections or is it relatively straight forward to setup?
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Yes, if you use QNAPs own WAN connection tool it has options for PPPoE authentication, or if you use Untangle or RouterOS in a VM they give you the usual fixed IP, DHCP or PPPoE authentication options.
 
platypus said:
Aye not sure what I'd do with regards to that. Pity I'd have to spend £1k to find out what its like :p.
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I think we pay about £500+VAT for the basic one with 2Gb RAM and we upgrade them ourselves. We also put in a 10GbE ethernet adapter in the PCIe slot.

If you look at the (much derided) NasCompares YouTube channel he has multiple videos covering almost every possible configuration possibility. And then there are other videos about the VMs and Unifi or Mikrotik.

One thing that is widely reported in these videos and is definitely true, the bootup and shutdown times are epically long. It's about the only negative thing I would say about the device. When you consider what you're getting, it's actually pretty cheap.
 
Ah thats an interesting sounding route. I have no need for 10GbE so that might work out as a nice, cheaper option. And I will be able to purchase it sans VAT, I think.
 
Wonder if and when the U6-Pro will be leaving EA and becoming a product... Mind you product shortages will derail any purchase anyway...
 
Mikey said:
Wonder if and when the U6-Pro will be leaving EA and becoming a product... Mind you product shortages will derail any purchase anyway...
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It seems to a reasonable performing product, and it seems quite stable. I’d say it will probably go GA around September. Bear in mind if the EA committee say it’s a GA product on Monday it takes 8 weeks to turn production on in Shenzhen and then 4-12 weeks to get product to the USA or Europe. And that’s the absolute fastest it can go. If there are chipset or component delays (and there are) then it could be Christmas.
 
WJA96 said:
It seems to a reasonable performing product, and it seems quite stable. I’d say it will probably go GA around September. Bear in mind if the EA committee say it’s a GA product on Monday it takes 8 weeks to turn production on in Shenzhen and then 4-12 weeks to get product to the USA or Europe. And that’s the absolute fastest it can go. If there are chipset or component delays (and there are) then it could be Christmas.
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Makes sense re the UI lead times and then everything else going on lead times.. Still need to sort cabling the house, that fell to the back burner for the mo.
 
Mikey said:
On a different subject, how many people are mounting their APs into their loft space rather than the ceiling?
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Mine are all mounted in the lofts. No proof but my belief is I probably could have got away with two instead of the three I need with them in the loft. But it is aesthetically more acceptable and was no bother for me while running cables anyway.
 
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