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@Martynt74 Depends what speeds you are expecting.

2.4Ghz will generally penetrate through a couple of walls / reflect off any obstacles enough to go around corners without problems. 5Ghz and especially 6Ghz not so much.

We've a mixture of older AC Mesh and FlexHD APs outdoors and they easily cover 30m, probably up to 50-60m, but we only use 2.4Ghz outdoor as range/coverage is far more important than speed in our application
 
Cheers. Probably worth having 2-3 external ones then? Whats the reach on external ones? My garage is going to be built where you can see trenches dug out pretty much central in the image. Would something mounted externally in the correct direction there reach easily?


No one could really say how far as every environment is different. If there is nothing in the way then it could "reach" 50-60m but "reach" is a iffy word. It doesn't mean a good connection as further you go from the AP the less signal and worse data rate.
 
Cheers. Is there unlikely to be a benefit of the U7 Pro then in this application and more likely the extra cash is better spent on a second unit? Looking at it the only benefit is the number of spatial streams, but for a residential use case with only 2 people and minimal devices it's probably not required.

Also for the not mounting an AP on a wall. I assume that's only relevant for the disc style AP's? The U7 outdoor looks to be designed for wall mounting.

To add that whilst the build is a long way off (given the pictures above!) i'm looking to add an external AP for the current rental house so buying one unit now. Was thinking of going with the Swiss Army knife but The U7 seemed to offer better future proofing
 
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It would, but its messy SFP to RJ45 to injector— too many points for failure IMO.

Are you really going to push that much wireless data that you need 10G?

Why not go for 2.5G switch? https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/switching-utility/products/usw-flex-2-5g-8-poe
Alright Mr Reasonable :p. You're right though, I don't really need to. I was always planning on getting a 10Gbe switch but that was before the 2.5Gbe was announced. The 2.5 Flex looks great but £80 for the power adapter is a bit laughable, second hand aggregation 10Gbe (RJ45) switch was going for less on MM not long ago.
 
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Cheers. Is there unlikely to be a benefit of the U7 Pro then in this application and more likely the extra cash is better spent on a second unit? Looking at it the only benefit is the number of spatial streams, but for a residential use case with only 2 people and minimal devices it's probably not required.

Also for the not mounting an AP on a wall. I assume that's only relevant for the disc style AP's? The U7 outdoor looks to be designed for wall mounting

If you mount a ceiling AP on the wall, think of the signal like a torch. What direction is it mounted? That is where the signal is going, it will work. It all comes down to your own requirements.
 
Alright Mr Reasonable :p. You're right though, I don't really need to. I was always planning on getting a 10Gbe switch but that was before the 2.5Gbe was announced. The 2.5 Flex looks great but £80 for the power adapter is a bit laughable, second hand aggregation 10Gbe (RJ45) switch was going for less on MM not long ago.

No PoE though. I've replaced my UDMP and link aggregation for the Cloud Ultra/Flex PoE and U7 Pro. 2.5G would be good enough for 95-99.8% of home users.
 
If you mount a ceiling AP on the wall, think of the signal like a torch. What direction is it mounted? That is where the signal is going, it will work. It all comes down to your own requirements.

Yeah i get that, but i'm speaking specifically about the Outdoor U7 which looks like it's created for Wall mounting.

I assume your article was only around the disc shaped AP's
 
Yeah i get that, but i'm speaking specifically about the Outdoor U7 which looks like it's created for Wall mounting.

I assume your article was only around the disc shaped AP's

Wall AP mounted on the wall will have an omni 360 (ish) signal pattern.

Ceiling AP mounted on the wall, think of this as a torch mounted on the wall, where is the light going? It will work, but again comes back to your requirements.
 
No PoE though. I've replaced my UDMP and link aggregation for the Cloud Ultra/Flex PoE and U7 Pro. 2.5G would be good enough for 95-99.8% of home users.
Nice. Still want to keep my UDM-SE (that I still have installed in its rack - currently sitting on top of it :p) but the Flex PoE 2.5 and U7P XG would be a nice addition whilst not breaking the bank, plus I could recoup some selling my U6P.
 
Cheers. Is there unlikely to be a benefit of the U7 Pro then in this application and more likely the extra cash is better spent on a second unit? Looking at it the only benefit is the number of spatial streams, but for a residential use case with only 2 people and minimal devices it's probably not required.

Also for the not mounting an AP on a wall. I assume that's only relevant for the disc style AP's? The U7 outdoor looks to be designed for wall mounting.

To add that whilst the build is a long way off (given the pictures above!) i'm looking to add an external AP for the current rental house so buying one unit now. Was thinking of going with the Swiss Army knife but The U7 seemed to offer better future proofing
I'd go with the standard U7 Outdoor. No reason to get the Pro unless all your devices have 4x4 antenna support, and even then it's unlikely you are going to hit the headline 8.6Gbps figure unless stood in the exact right spot.

Swiss Army knife I'd avoid, it's just a bit naff even for the price, as in our testing even the older AC Mesh units outperformed it.


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The only other potential option would be if they release an updated version of the U6 Mesh, as presumably a wifi 7 refresh version is due
 
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Awesome cheers. Will get that ordered now. Does feel a bit annoying keep buying long network cables to run to outdoor devices in this rental that i'll never need again but needs must!
 
If you're building a house and haven't broken ground yet then bury some twinwall ducting so you can put an AP right alongside the outdoor terrace bit. I assume you're already having power out there for lighting etc, you're talking maybe €60 of additional cost for another length of duct.
 
Cheers guys. I've a thread in the Home and Garden where i've been posting updates.

@Caged Yeah this is pretty much why i'm trying to plan locations now so i can run cables exactly where i need access points. I'm pretty happy with them indoors but working on outside.
 
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