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Oh Dear, more ATI 58xx mysteries!!

elpedro said:
I have solved this problem and was correct when I believed it had nothing to do with the card itself.



I swapped my 5870 with my mate's 4870 to see if it would crash for him. What was more interesting was his 4870 crashed at same random times like my 5870 would BUT instead of the vertical bars, it gave me a BSOD. Furthmore, my mate didn't have a single problem with the 5870 in his system. (Who would have thought I'd be so happy to see a BSOD :D)

With this, I was able to look at the dmp file it created, turned out my system RAM was the problem. Set my RAM to 1066MHz (rated speed) and not a single crash in any game.

So it had nothing to do with flashing the card nor the hardware itself. Furthermore, 9.11 drivers fixed the weird stuttering problem I had in PES 2010, so I am a very happy bunny right now. Quite surprising really, if you look at my sig, the RAM was barely overclocked, but it does explain how some games would play for ages and others would crash almost instantly as the system RAM is used differently in different games; also why Furmark couldn't detect any problems.

To conclude, if you get the screen crash I had, take off any system overclock and try it again. Flashing had nothing to do with my problem nor did overclocking my card, I'm happily back to 900/1300 and keeping within sensible temps; most importantly I can game again!
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nice you have found and solved the issue but when my screen appeared like yours i had my card @ 900/1300 but with no voltage mod. sent it back to stock and no issues since. I believe for me it was my overclock which caused it. nothing to do with ATI but my own overclock.
 
I've said before many times, ATi stops responding driver faults, are actually rarely down to the driver being bad, but the driver being unstable due to an unstable system.

Realistically its one of the single most complex drivers there, and largest that probably does the most work, an unstable system will cause a gfx driver to crash before most other things.

I switched from a 3870x2, to a 4870x2 and had frequent ati driver crashes/recoverys, turned out the ever so slight difference in voltage draw and different rail usage, more power being drawn across the pci-e slot across the mobo, on a 1k psu(because I got a great deal, its nuts to spend £100+ on one ;) ) and my overclocked cpu needed once extra bump of voltage after the upgrade and every crash went away.

Lets be honest, a huge percentage of people on this forum overclock, quite a few people overclock to a point thats stable for most things but not everything, and very few people retest their overclocking limits after upgrading a GPU, assuming that all the parts were capable of say 3.5Ghz now, why wouldn't they after.
 
yes but as i said in my previous posts, the 5850 i had which my mate has rma'd for me, i tested without overclocks on anything, and with stock bios, new installs of windows i had a ton of problems.

safe to say now though, the one he swapped to me while it got rma'd is working pretty good.
 
toon_mad said:
yes but as i said in my previous posts, the 5850 i had which my mate has rma'd for me, i tested without overclocks on anything, and with stock bios, new installs of windows i had a ton of problems.

safe to say now though, the one he swapped to me while it got rma'd is working pretty good.
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why couldn't you RMA it? I’m sorry but to have a perfectly working card and then after you've swapped bios etc to then not be working doesn't tell me it's just the card. clearly it's user error which has corrupted it.
 
why?

he had his in xfire, he happily lent me one of his why he used his other working one, so i was left with a card.

otherwise i would have been left with none.

oh, and read all the thread, it was not perfect from start, before any user modifications as you put it.
 
gareth170 said:
i get this sometimes.
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So do I. At first I thought it was an overclocking issue but I have eliminated that by testing in stability programs like OCCT. I thought my MSi Neo-2 P35 mobo locked the PCI bus but I'll double-check. My ram is at 1:1 ratio but I'll do some memtesting or something to eliminate that.

The issue is not the card I think but some instability elsewhere.
 
ive had my card for about a month at stock speeds, problems i have had are need for speed shift no longer works crashing with nfs shift has topped working monkey island special edition no longer works - wont launch at all. and resident evil 5 anti aliasing doesnt work, blank screen during cutscenes everything else is fine heheh.
 
toon_mad said:
why?

he had his in xfire, he happily lent me one of his why he used his other working one, so i was left with a card.

otherwise i would have been left with none.

oh, and read all the thread, it was not perfect from start, before any user modifications as you put it.
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so what was WRONG with the card to RMA?
From reading this thread it appears clear as day there is either a conflict of drivers with a programme you're running or you broke it by changing bios etc
 
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