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Oh Dear, more ATI 58xx mysteries!!

I myself have never found anything stable about ATI's software since using the HIS 3850.

My current intall of Win7 64 is only a number of months old, I have updated teh drivers twice and I have had according to the computer 17 ATI driver failures with my 4870.

It is also running with a Memio temp of 80c and is supposed to be one of the quietest and coolest being a Sapphire Toxic edition with vapour cooling, this thing was £200+ back in the day, as was my 3850 which didn't even have working drivers when released.

Maybe Nvidea will bring out something that does without question kick ATI's ass, as I am not sure I want to go through any hassle with drivers again.
 
sastusbulbas said:
I myself have never found anything stable about ATI's software since using the HIS 3850.

My current intall of Win7 64 is only a number of months old, I have updated teh drivers twice and I have had according to the computer 17 ATI driver failures with my 4870.

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Maybe Nvidea will bring out something that does without question kick ATI's ass, as I am not sure I want to go through any hassle with drivers again.
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i betrayed nvidia, and look at the wrath ive been handed :o

im on edge waiting for it to go dodgee again. when it works, its a quality card - but that is, when it works.
 
My current intall of Win7 64 is only a number of months old, I have updated teh drivers twice and I have had according to the computer 17 ATI driver failures with my 4870.
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How very very strange, i fresh installed Widnows 7, and then used the ATi 9.10 drivers for windows 7 64-bit, and I've had absolutely no GFX issues at any point or stage with my build. I've played a great many games over many days, and none have proven to cause any incidents even notorious fallout3 version1.7
My specs are in my sig, but I wonder why your 4870 is behaving so differently, what manufacturer?
 
i have no problems since i got my 5870 and windows 7 64-bit, must be the USER.
Flashing a card and overclock it is a bad idea, so that might be YOUR problem, heck even ATI says they do NOT support overclocking and flashing firmware

ATI releases drivers every month, last month it was 9.10 that added 5800 support, this month its 9.11, that should be out in some days ;)

btw did you know that NVIDIA was the fault of 60% of the Vista crashes?
 
Damien. said:
Had a few small issues with my 5870 to start off with but everything is ironed out now and it seems bullet proof. Running games such as fallout 3 maxed out and not a single moan from the GPU.

Looking forward to the 9.12 drivers but even now I cant complaint !
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am looking forward to 9.13 :p
 
toon_mad said:
even with a format it wont work on windows 7, which by they way had been using with my 5850 since these cards came to overclockers.

something odd happened completely by random which wont let me install the CCC and drivers on Windows 7 anymore.
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did you try device manager?
 
my bro is running win7 the beta version still and a 5850 @1.174v 930/1230 with msi afterburner. card has not been flashed. the only error my bro had was after playing farcry2 for nearly three hours screen went blank everything went slow error was driver stopped responding and has recovered but he still had to do a reset because it froze.
 
muggs said:
my bro is running win7 the beta version still and a 5850 @1.174v 930/1230 with msi afterburner. card has not been flashed. the only error my bro had was after playing farcry2 for nearly three hours screen went blank everything went slow error was driver stopped responding and has recovered but he still had to do a reset because it froze.
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maybe its the overclock that did that
 
I will post this again, as I always do in these situations,

ATi and nVidia have all had their fair share of driver problems, amongst other problems, some people have issues with ATi but not wih nVidia on the same rig and vice versa. I on the other hand have used ATi an nVidia products and never had a problem with either of them.
 
Surprised to hear about so many problems with ati cards. Have had a fair few over the years with no problems. Although a 4870 I recently bought had to go back due to problems.
 
muggs said:
my bro is running win7 the beta version still and a 5850 @1.174v 930/1230 with msi afterburner. card has not been flashed. the only error my bro had was after playing farcry2 for nearly three hours screen went blank everything went slow error was driver stopped responding and has recovered but he still had to do a reset because it froze.
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I had the same problem with Far Cry 2. After playing for a number of hours the game would grind to a halt so on the next try I alt-tabbed out of the game to find I had practically no free memory left. The game had munched its way through 6GB. I had the same issue with Crysis...

Not the cards fault, just lazy programming.
 
well a good mate of mine who has 2 5850's in crossfire has kindly swapped my dodgee one for his working one, he will rma the dodgee one and use his 1 5850 while that gets sorted out, this way i dont lose any gaming time :D
 
elpedro said:
Follow up to my above post. I've just changed my PCI frequency in the bios to 100 (was 101) then tried Crysis again.

This was the result in under 5 minutes of gameplay. Computer remains on, fans and everything still going. Absolutely no response from the PC. have to restart.

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I have solved this problem and was correct when I believed it had nothing to do with the card itself.

elpedro said:
I DO NOT think it's an overclocking/overheating problem though. As I went as far as re flashing to my original bios and ran stock clocks. I then left the MENU SCREEN open in Crysis Warhead and after like 15 minutes it crashed in the exact same way.
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I swapped my 5870 with my mate's 4870 to see if it would crash for him. What was more interesting was his 4870 crashed at same random times like my 5870 would BUT instead of the vertical bars, it gave me a BSOD. Furthmore, my mate didn't have a single problem with the 5870 in his system. (Who would have thought I'd be so happy to see a BSOD :D)

With this, I was able to look at the dmp file it created, turned out my system RAM was the problem. Set my RAM to 1066MHz (rated speed) and not a single crash in any game.

So it had nothing to do with flashing the card nor the hardware itself. Furthermore, 9.11 drivers fixed the weird stuttering problem I had in PES 2010, so I am a very happy bunny right now. Quite surprising really, if you look at my sig, the RAM was barely overclocked, but it does explain how some games would play for ages and others would crash almost instantly as the system RAM is used differently in different games; also why Furmark couldn't detect any problems.

To conclude, if you get the screen crash I had, take off any system overclock and try it again. Flashing had nothing to do with my problem nor did overclocking my card, I'm happily back to 900/1300 and keeping within sensible temps; most importantly I can game again!
 
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I have said for a long time most of the problems people are having are not issues with cards its something with there pc.

I had my 5850 4th October and flashed it with a 5870 bios by mistake with in the first week as i said, i am still running that bios and it works faultless, even got it running at 950 core now.
 
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