Oh noes, it's AI VR porn! Run for the hills!

We're on a slope already with the promotion of pedophile-like material that is popular. All this Daddy material bdsm settings, or women dressing like little girls etc. Also the incest material. The subtle introduction of milf in to the general conversation, a sexual term now normalised.

A lot of adults haven't grown up in maturity so they still hang on to fantasies they had when a teenager even though now they are 20+.
 
Hotwired said:
I will never not find it hilarious that when the CPS decided they wanted a test case and chose one guy to brand a sex offender for hentai schoolgirls the judge felt compelled to mention that no children or child abuse was involved. Then started dribbling about moral outrage and slippery slope justification since he was handing down a 9 month suspended prison sentence for cartoons :cry:

That was about 10 years ago and either hentai schoolgirls stopped being a thing or even the CPS decided it was ******* stupid.
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I think the reason why they tried to prosecute that is because they use the gateway principle. That it will lead to normalising images of, mainly, young girls being sexualized, and that will lead to more real life settings as that is generally how porn works for many people.

The gateway theory is part of the reason real images are banned, as well as it encouraging a market for its production.

I think fictional images are illegal in some countries.
 
BowdonUK said:
I think the reason why they tried to prosecute that is because they use the gateway principle. That it will lead to normalising images of, mainly, young girls being sexualized, and that will lead to more real life settings as that is generally how porn works for many people.

The gateway theory is part of the reason real images are banned, as well as it encouraging a market for its production.

I think fictional images are illegal in some countries.
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There's absolutely no evidence that the gateway theory holds any water. It's often repeated, but it's not proven.

Personally, I don't find any link between fantasy and reality. What happens in our imaginations is often totally beyond the realms of anything we'd act out in real life. Who hasn't had a daydream about killing someone? Honestly? I think we've probably all daydreamed about killing someone. Perhaps brutally. Holy crap, we should all be in jail for this thought crime? "It's a slippery slope..."

For the sake of argument, there are some (with whom I don't necessarily agree, btw) who say that such cartoons might prevent some paedos from attacking real children.

Haze said:
Most anime characters all look underage, and that seems to be acceptable?
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Nope, in the UK they're technically illegal. The criteria is that a "reasonable person" could think they were under 18.

Take your average catgirl. In most fantasy universes, they age like cats and not humans. So an 18 y.o. catgirl is geriatric :p

The whole thing gets more absurd, because the law as it stands does not limit "being a child" to being a) real or b) human.

It is always illegal if a "reasonable person" takes a look at it and says, "they're probably under 181". A drawing of sentient anthropomorphised plant could make you a sex offender :p

e: 18, 81, same difference :p
 
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It's not when you watch these videos in VR do you realise the models aren't that attractive.

No end have got questionable scars running up their arms :(
 
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jaybee said:
Thought police comes to mind...but then, AI only generates output based on human input. Is it illegal to have fantasies that are illegal, but brought to "life" visually for others to see and witness. It's unchartered territory really.
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No it isn't.

Everyone is free to imagine whatever debauched filth they like within the confines of their own head.

Act that out or otherwise realise it in the material world, then you're in trouble, and has been thus for a very long time.
 
mid_gen said:
No it isn't.

Everyone is free to imagine whatever debauched filth they like within the confines of their own head.

Act that out or otherwise realise it in the material world, then you're in trouble, and has been thus for a very long time.
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It's no less fantasy if it's imagined in your head or drawn on a piece of paper from something that originated in your head.

Sketching something doesn't make it real (to state the obvious).
 
FoxEye said:
It's no less fantasy if it's imagined in your head or drawn on a piece of paper from something that originated in your head.

Sketching something doesn't make it real (to state the obvious).
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We're talking about what is illegal (well, you were). Nothing has changed here. Nobody is stopped from having whatever thoughts they want to have.

When you materialise that imagery in the real world, doesn't matter if it's a pencil sketch, wood-carving, or a digital image, then it very much is real and you can be held responsible for producing it.
 
If you’re having sexual thoughts and fantasies that would be illegal if acted out (or are otherwise dubious), it’s probably an indication that you need to actively manage your fantasising rather than encourage it.

It won’t do you any good to persistently ‘live out’ stuff in your head that is removed from your reality. It’ll just make you more and more dissatisfied with your comparatively mundane existence (read that as meaning that there is inherently a lot of monotony, mundanity and ‘missing out’ in life).

That’s not me being dismissive of others, mind - I grew up being a bit of a ‘dreamer’ to help me avoid dealing with emotional conflicts and that has made my adult life feel like a chore at times. So I’m constantly trying to ‘choose life’ and embrace the relative mundanity rather than escape feelings of dissatisfaction by distraction. Emphasis on ‘trying’… it can be hard but I figure it’s better to engage reality and struggle than build worlds and die in a palace in my head.
 
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When you materialise that imagery in the real world, doesn't matter if it's a pencil sketch, wood-carving, or a digital image, then it very much is real and you can be held responsible for producing it.
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It's also illegal to murder someone but seems to be fine to draw a murder, or even act one out in a computer game.

Really tricky question isn't it. Ive been thinking about it since reading this thread and don't know how to even start formulating a view on this one.

Nitefly said:
It won’t do you any good to persistently ‘live out’ stuff in your head that is removed from your reality. It’ll just make you more and more dissatisfied with your comparatively mundane existence (read that as meaning that there is inherently a lot of monotony, mundanity and ‘missing out’ in life).
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Isn't this exactly what computer games, movies and TV are designed to do? To prey on this inbuilt nature we all have to want to escape from our normal lives?
 
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