Poll: Old & bitter?

Based on your personal experience (your own views if you consider yourself to be older, or the appar

  • People's views stay much the same throughout their life

    Votes: 47 15.8%

  • As people age and enjoy/anticipate benefits of financial security etc. they become more tolerant

    Votes: 70 23.6%

  • Hearts harden with the arteries, old = bitter, Daily Mail is right, youth of today have it easy etc

    Votes: 180 60.6%
  • Total voters
    297
Amp34 said:
I wouldn't agree that this generation has more opportunities than any before them. Different opportunities sure, but more? Probably not. Just as this generation don't have it easier than previous generations, but probably don't have it harder either. The struggles, opportunities and hardships are different.

For example todays generation are finding it harder to get on the housing ladder and are predicted to be poorer than the previous generation, but at the same time that is evened out by greater accessibility for self growth, communication and a wide variety of other things that have changed since the last generation were young. That in itself brings challenges and difficulties that previous generations have not faced.

You may think you know what is going through the minds of the current generation having helped in schools, but do you really? Just as the younger generation can think they have an idea about what it's like to be old - but we don't.

The whole "we had it much harder in our day, your generation don't know how easy it is" has probably been around since the 'invention' of generations...:p


As for the original question. It probably depends. Personally I've become more liberal with age, but being a millennial that's not saying much. :p

The difficulty is separating out the generational divide with actual change over someones lifetime. As an example when todays 60 year olds were growing up multiculturalism and internationalism were not as prevalent. Most people that age didn't grow up going to school with people from Poland, India, Africa etc, and as such may have more of an aversion to immigration due to that. Racism was more acceptable, where for the young today it's been drummed into us that it's bad. That's just one example of variability in just one of a myriad of issues that could be grouped under the question. Are people more "grumpy" as they get older, or does it just seem like that because the world moves on?
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Probably the only sensible thing I have read on this thread, but what would I know a 63 year old Goa trance/hardstyle music loving, video gaming, thinks most TV in my day is as crap as TV today know.
 
I havn't changed my views or opinions one iota since my teens. Well apart from the odd thing here and there. I voted for Thatcher back then read the Mail and I'd do the same today. Who knows maybe when I hit 60 I'll undergo a metamorphosis and transform into Jeremy Corbyn.

V F said:
I remember 7 - 9 being so awesome. Can still remember it like it was yesterday even though it wasn't. 87 - 90 I always remembered the better and longer summers. 91 - 93 was awesome as well. We had moved in 91. So many great wonderful summers out cycling everywhere. 96 became even better once I got into dirt bikes but today is even better bar the amount of sucky weather. :/

I always hold on to the most now over the past decades what seemed to appear had longer and better summers.
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Thats just nostalgia. The only great summer I can ever remember was the long hot summer of '76. It just started in about May and didn't stop until September. Baking hot and plagues of ladybirds too (yes, really. There were so many at one point they were drifts of them filling the gutters.). Water shortages weren't so much fun though at least we didn't have standpipes in this part of the world. Everything since has been average to bad.
 
If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain

Maybe the ages are a bit off, but I think the general thrust of the message is spot on. Young people have nothing to lose, so they tend to swim against the current. As people get older and accumulate wealth and wisdom, they want to protect the status quo.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain

Maybe the ages are a bit off, but I think the general thrust of the message is spot on. Young people have nothing to lose, so they tend to swim against the current. As people get older and accumulate wealth and wisdom, they want to protect the status quo.
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Not me. Today the "status quo" describes the decay of western civilisation. We have already peaked, I believe.

The status quo doesn't appear to be a real option, anyhow. At the current time we are experiencing a funnelling of an ever-greater share of the world's wealth to the top 0.5%. This is not a status quo and cannot continue indefinitely.

Sooner or later our civilisation is going to break down. You can bet your house on it. Or your landlord/masters house.
 
kindai said:
Its not easier but they expect it all and expect it now.

I know a guy a year younger than me, took an entry level job at a warehouse. Quit after a week because he expected to be in a managerial or position of authority off the bat :eek:

Even my year, I see people who "expect" and "expected" by now to be multi millionaires because they were told they could do it and going to uni would get them there within a couple of years of leaving.

A lot of my school year ask how I can afford a nice car, and to do what I want, take days or weeks off yet still get along easily, well, the shocker to them is while they were in uni, racking up debt and getting drunk, I was working my ass off building my reputation and company.
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Fine example and well put....when i was at uni, i went because i thought it was the done thing, i left half way through as i realised i didnt have the motivation and i just got drunk etc which screwed me up.

Ive never known what i wanted to do in life, but ive worked hard for what i have....because ive had to...i can safely say everything i have, ive worked for.

Its not only the youth today, but many people...who "expect" everything...hence we have a lot of "plastic fantastic" people walking around, whether its credit cards, fake T8T's or the like.

Just had a debate at work about Leasing Cars, PCP or buying a few years old...the latter is always my stop, because i want to work and own things, not live looking like im doing well. But i know this isnt for all, hell it shouldnt be as we would all be the same.
 
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