Old PC upgrade suggestions

[Tetras]

My mobo has 1x16 PCie slot looking at this - https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/P67A-GD65_(B3).html

Quartz was referring to the cards themselves, practically all motherboards have a 16 lane slot.

Your board says PCI-E 2.0, but your CPU is actually PCI-E 3.0, though I think there were some that supported PCI-E 3.0 with a BIOS update.

It is irrelevant to the 3060 and 6700 XT anyway because they both have the full 16 lanes so they'll lose very little performance.

 

[Gray2233]

It's also worth noting that if you enjoy Fallout 4, you might very much enjoy the upcoming Starfield as it's by the same developers (Bethesda). Their games all tend to be similar in many respects, in which case the 6700XT comes with a copy and should offer better performance than the 3060 on top.

 

[Beerbaron]

Its taken me several years to get around to playing FO4 so will probably be a few more years until i finish it

 

[Beerbaron]

you need to OC that cpu or a serious bottleneck on the 3060

I'm hoping when i change the GFX it will stop the in game crashing.

 

[Gray2233]

Its taken me several years to get around to playing FO4 so will probably be a few more years until i finish it

Sell the code if you don't want it, there's a few went on the members market section of this forum for £35 lately.

 

[sither]

I'm hoping when i change the GFX it will stop the in game crashing.

Nope that is a separate issue

 

[Beerbaron]

Nope that is a separate issue

Would the RAM be causing it then?

 

[Joxeon]

I'm not sure the extra cost is worth the extra performance in getting a 6700 XT or is it?

The 6700XT is 30% faster than a 3060, it also comes with starfield which you can sell for 40 quid on MM if you dont want the game.

AMD cards also have less driver overhead and due to this work better with older CPU's.

 

[Beerbaron]

I dropped the multiplier from 42 to 40 and that appears to be stable in game at 4ghz now.

 

[Beerbaron]

I have managed to overclock the CPU to 4.2ghz without using the OC Genie and it being stable in game.

 

[Beerbaron]

I think i might get an MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12GB VENTUS 3X OC Ampere Graphics Card £279.99

 

[Jupiter]

Definitely focus on CPU before buying a 3060. I wouldn't even consider buying one until upgraded from 3xxx series Intel CPUs

 

[Beerbaron]

It's the best CPU my board supports.

 

[Beerbaron]

Lets assume i want to play Starfield next, I'll need a new PC for that. Can you recommend a CPU, mobo, RAM, NVME & GPX for £1500

 

[Tetras]

Lets assume i want to play Starfield next, I'll need a new PC for that. Can you recommend a CPU, mobo, RAM, NVME & GPX for £1500

The thread is quite long, is your case for this upgrade: Corsair 650D and PSU RM850?

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i7-13700F (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6BD-IN) = £359.99
• 1 x MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-37M-MS) = £149.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-29H-KS) = £109.99
• 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-3A7-SP) = £699.95
• 1 x AMD - Starfield Radeon Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-00542) = £0.00
• 1 x Seagate FireCuda 530 2TB SSD PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (ZP2000GM3A013) (SKU: HD-3DX-SE) = £109.99
  

Total: £1,437.90 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

Cooler: this (under £50).

 

[Beerbaron]

If i can keep the case that would be a bonus, but i think i need to replace the PSU as its probably 10 years old although the PC wasn't really used for 4 years.

Over half the cost for that build is the GFX. Would something like this be ok? - SAPPHIRE PURE AMD Radeon™ RX 7700 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 12GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture

 

[MissChief]

Over half the cost for that build is the GFX. Would something like this be ok?

Sadly such is the way with modern Graphics cards these days. The 7700XT will suffice, yes but if you're looking to remain 'relevant' for longer the extra on the 7900XT is worth shelling out for.

 

[Tetras]

Over half the cost for that build is the GFX. Would something like this be ok?

If you're playing at 1080p or 1440p, it is enough. For 4K, I'd get the 7900 XT.

HUB's opinion is that the 7700 XT doesn't really make sense when it is priced so closely to the 7800 XT, though I believe it was in LTT's review, that the 7700 XT seemed to be underperforming (they hypothesised that the driver is bugged and isn't using all of the memory).

 

[Beerbaron]

I currently game at 1440p.

What PSU and cooler would you recommend for that setup?

 

[Tetras]

I currently game at 1440p.

What PSU and cooler would you recommend for that setup?

Which spec? 13700F and 7700 XT, or?

Thermalright's peerless assassin is what I'd buy for any CPU up to a 13700F. With a 7700 or 7900 non-X I'd also consider using the wraith prism they come with.

PSU: personally I'd just reuse your RM850, but otherwise: I'd suggest 750 or higher for the 7700/7800 XT. 850 or higher for a 7900 XT.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Corsair RMe Series RM750e Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply v2 (CP-9020262-UK) (SKU: CA-27S-CS) = £115.00
• 1 x Corsair RMe Series RM850e Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply v2 (CP-9020263-UK) (SKU: CA-27N-CS) = £124.99
• 1 x MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 UK PSU 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-00Y-MS) = £139.99
• 1 x Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W Fully Modular Native PCIE 5 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-1BN-TT) = £164.99
• 1 x Power Cable for Thermaltake GF3 850/1000/1200 Power supply (SKU: CB-000-TT) = £0.00

Total: £552.96 (includes delivery: £7.99)​