Oldham - Torture
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They'll be put on the prison's "Islam" course and be turned into Jihadis by the prison itself!
There was actually a thread some time ago about HM's Prison Service actually trying to mobilise/recruit/programme/whatever an army of terrorists.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18733812
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He's right though
Except he's not. He's making many assumptions. Many. He's assuming the reason for this crime. He's assuming they were a gang. He's assuming he knows anything about me.
Assumptions.
Hahaha.
You think I'm assuming the reason for this crime? All this proves is that you have failed to comprehend the HEADLINE of your own link which states: "Oldham teenagers sentenced for torture of boy over £80 debt"
Secondly, You think I'm simply assuming that 4 people involved in a gang attack...... are a gang?
Amazing cognitive ability you have. It simply concretes how much insight you can potentially give in a serious criminological discussion.
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The course is actually called "muslamic islamism"
Source: im from Oldham and have Muslim neighbours
Hahaha.
You think I'm assuming the reason for this crime? All this proves is that you have failed to comprehend the HEADLINE of your own link which states: "Oldham teenagers sentenced for torture of boy over £80 debt"
Secondly, You think I'm simply assuming that 4 people involved in a gang attack...... are a gang?
Amazing.
Glad you're amused. You assumed the origin to be drugs. You assumed and continue to do so that a group of people is a gang.
I go for lunch with colleagues, are we a gang? I have a close group of friends, are we a gang? I go for meals with my family, are we a gang? No. A collective group does not imply a gang. Again, you have assumed.
Do you have any statistics at all to show that this type of attack, with that level of violence, by children of that age is common as you've suggested? Remember...There's a bazilion cases out there!
Now you're just making yourself look like you have issues with language too. Of course you can call yourself a gang even if you're not involved in criminality. If you go out for a meal in a large group and want to refer to your collective as a "gang" you are free to do so lmao, but somehow I doubt you're into creative writing.
I don't see what that has to do with your denial of several people with collective criminal intent being referred to as a "gang". I don't even know what it has to do with the fact that you do not have a clue.
Lets just pretend, for your sake, the others don't exist and there is no gang. The point still stands, you don't borrow money of people if you don't intend to pay them back. Whether it's a gang, a guy who has a lot of goons, a loan shark, your mother, or Wonga.com!
You still deny an existence of a world outside of your news stories and statistics, even though I've specifically explained and given first hand experience of why victims of gang culture keep quiet and how the vast majority of such cases will never be part of any statistics.
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Well it is a fact that our Juvenile Prisons are mostly full of gang related criminals who have committed crimes (including GBH) involving drugs.
During my 6 months I can only think of one Juvenile who wasn't in there for drug related crime and he was in there for raping kids. I had the misfortune to spend a couple of days with him keeping him company while playing pool etc.
I don't see what part of post 88 requires a source.
Cognitive issues again with you? This is about the 15th time.
You have no idea about the world around you apart from hate and what your favourite news site and their sources have fed you, and then you start begging for sources when someone tells you something obvious like victims of gang culture won't report crime because they're criminals themselves.
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I'll spell it out for you since again your deflecting your own clear cognitive issues on to others. You have asserted that this was due to drugs. You have no source. You have asserted they were a gang. You have no source. You have stated cases like this are incredibly common, the age, the violence. You have no source.
I have repeatedly asked you for sources to back up your statements. You have provided none. You continue thinly veiled personal attacks against me. I'd laugh but you still can't provide a source!
I have repeatedly asked you for sources to back up your statements. You have provided none. You continue thinly veiled personal attacks against me. I'd laugh but you still can't provide a source!
You do realise all of your nonsense is complete non sequitur?
Who cares if the loan was for drugs or a mother's day present? The fact that I've used the word "drugs" has got nothing to do with the point. You're just leeching on to it because you know there isn't a source for it and it's rather hilarious to watch!
Who cares if they were literally an organised gang or not even though there's several and they shared the same criminal intent? They don't look like a loan company now do they lmfao.
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You do realise all of your nonsense is complete non sequitur?
Who cares if the loan was for drugs or a mother's day present? The fact that I've used the word "drugs" has got nothing to do with the point. You're just leeching on to it because you know there isn't a source for it and it's rather hilarious to watch!
Who cares if they were literally an organised gang or not even though there's several and they shared the same criminal intent? They don't look like a loan company now do they lmfao.
And the final point you've failed to be able to address again?
Perhaps you'd be kind enough to reiterate this "final point". I seem to have missed it amongst all the irrationality and defence mechanisms, twice apparently.
Finally, someone who has some actual life experience apart from news reading and hating from their armchair. Thanks for coming along.
You got a source for that btw
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I think he took the money to buy new school books.
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Those 4 lads were probably unrelated to each other and he owed them £20 each for books. They probably all met when they were individually going round to get their school book money back and decided to collectively torture him. Spot The Dog books don't come cheap these days.
Or he owed drug money to a gang, I can't make my mind up.