Oleds are overrated

You might need to calibrate the monitor. They aren't always optimised from factory. Always turn off energy saving features and also turn of any motion "improvement" features. They generally make the quality worse.

I wish I could afford an oled monitor myself, when I bough my lg b7 oled for the living room it was a revelation, it's 5 years old now and it's still amazing picture quality. My boy has his Xbox series x hooked up to it and the graphics really pop in series x optimised games.

My pc I have a 1440p va Philips monitor the quality is nice and the blacks are pretty good (why I went for a va panel) , games on my rx6800xt don't look nearly as good as they donon the series x and the oled tv
 
Rroff said:
Not a huge OLED fan myself - though it has some disadvantages especially when it comes to black levels I much prefer QD-LED on a VA panel when done right - the lifelikeness of vibrant scenes is just another level.
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Your statement makes zero sense

You say QD-led/VA is lifelike vibrant except that all QD-led TVs make images look over saturated and too vibrant, it's not lifelike at all - this is especially the case in HDR, real life looks nothing like it. As for black levels on OLED I'm unsure what you mean, unless that is to say you prefer greys instead of black, which is unrealistic and not lifelike.

Your post indicates that you prefer as much shadow detail as possible and prefer over saturated and over brightened images. And that's fine you are entitled to your preference and can enjoy it, but I would suggest not to call it lifelike because it's really not
 
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Grim5 said:
Your statement makes zero sense

You say QD-led/VA is lifelike vibrant except that all QD-led TVs make images look over saturated and too vibrant, it's not lifelike at all - this is especially the case in HDR, real life looks nothing like it. As for black levels on OLED I'm unsure what you mean, unless that is to say you prefer greys instead of black, which is unrealistic and not lifelike.

Your post indicates that you prefer as much shadow detail as possible and prefer over saturated and over brightened images. And that's fine you are entitled to your preference and can enjoy it, but I would suggest not to call it lifelike because it's really not
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You've missed/mixed up several key bits of my post.
 
robj20 said:
To be fair that's the way I read it as well so not sure it's us. It read like you don't like the blacks of OLED and prefer qd-led.
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Though the - would be better replaced with a . it makes sense if you read the whole sentence end to end - also people missing the point of the italicised when, etc. it might take a moment but it really isn't hard to understand what I'm actually saying when you weigh up the likelihood of the possible interpretations - it is quite unlikely in that context I'm criticising OLED for blacks.
 
robfosters said:
Saying the latest QLED blacks are grey is just not true. They’re nigh on OLED level inky black now. They’ve come a long way.

I also prefer QLED to OLED.
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It isn't just about blacks being grey - there can be issues with black crush, banding, etc. etc. causing issues with detail in dark areas - even when you have inky blacks doesn't mean a good reproduction of darker areas.
 
Imo qd oled is capable of the best pq, but needs to be in a dark/dim room.
One issue with the qd oled is the black level starts to raise as more light enters the room due to not having a polariser. My lg oled screen has better blacks in the daytime than my qd oled.
Another issue is near black when using vrr and not running at native fps. Let's say you are playing a demanding game at 60fps, you may notice some near black banding/artifacts due to the near black gamma changing the further from native the fps is.
There is still compromise in the monitor section, but for me oled is by far the best since the crt days
 
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kute said:
It seems dim. I don't get it.
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Sounds like your room is too bright, OLEDs look their best in dark rooms.

The best thing I did for my movie watching and gaming experience was DIY some blackout blinds. Also ditch all of that RGB nonsense if you have any, it's just needless light pollution.

CapitalOne said:
The 48CX is the best gaming experience and pq bar none if you can drive it at 4k120.
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The second best was buying a LG CX OLED (55"). 100% agree, at 4k 120fps with HDR it is fantastic. 2 years of ownership & regular use and it still surprises me with how good it looks. And that's coming from a long-time plasma fanboy.

Rroff said:
Same with many of the newer QD/OLED/other LED technologies - standard definition Netflix looks absolutely trash on a lot of modern 40+" displays.
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That's mostly down to the crappy upscaling algorithms being employed. With the power of a modern desktop PC you can do some pretty impressive upscaling, but netflix's DRM* prevents you from being in control of the upscaling for obvious reasons. I've heard that Nvidia Shield has the best inbuilt upscaling, but I can't say from personal experience.

When I got my LG I compared the same episode of Friends on a 720p netflix stream (with whatever their upscaling algo is) vs 480p from a DVD upscaled using madVR on my desktop. Yeah there was slightly more detail on the netflix 720p stream, but there was ringing, over-sharpening, aliasing and god knows what else. The properly upscaled 480p video was much more pleasant to watch. The downside is you need a decent PC and a fair few watts of electricity, approx. 150-200 extra watts drawn from the wall using the PC in my sig with underclocked and undervolted profile on the GPU, you could probably reduce this significantly with a PC and OC/UC/UV settings tailored to upscaling rather than gaming though. And that's real-time upscaling. If you rip the files to storage and upscale in non-real-time (i.e. before watching) you can get even better results at the cost of storage space and time. Just look at some of the AI upscaling demonstrations on youtube.

*All streaming providers do this, not just netflix.
 
Once you get used to a bright mini led there is no going back to anything dull looking like OLEDs.

Plus you can use it till your heart's content without worrying about the inevitable burn in.

EDIT: Nobody tells you how bad OLEDs are in SDR and tons of popular PC games don't support HDR and they even block Windows auto HDR. Mini leds look glorious in both SDR and HDR.
 
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Having just switched the OLED, I struggle with any of my other screens. It’s night and day. Depends on the content, but some games I’ve played on it are just ridiculously stunning.
 
NZXT30 said:
Once you get used to a bright mini led there is no going back to anything dull looking like OLEDs.

Plus you can use it till your heart's content without worrying about the inevitable burn in.
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I've found burn in a very mixed story - I'm using devices (phones, tablets, laptops) with OLED panels which people panic about it and I've had zero issues on them, I've had several non-OLED including even TN monitors which have suffered image retention problems, etc. etc. same for TVs some seem to suffer badly with burn in and other image retention issues others not a single issue without much rhyme or reason as to usage or technology.

There was a lot made of AMOLED burn in on early phones but I've been using my Samsung Galaxy Note 1 as an alarm clock just displaying the time for years and/or other static imagery without any noticeable issues until recently when the screen is starting to turn a very slight kind of sickly hue but it is barely noticeable - that is over 10 years. (Though I've seen other people's Note 1 phones where the screen has ghosting over it after only 2-3 years).
 
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NZXT30 said:
Once you get used to a bright mini led there is no going back to anything dull looking like OLEDs.

Plus you can use it till your heart's content without worrying about the inevitable burn in.

EDIT: Nobody tells you how bad OLEDs are in SDR and tons of popular PC games don't support HDR and they even block Windows auto HDR. Mini leds look glorious in both SDR and HDR.
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Mini LED isn't perfect. I've got a mini LED panel on my laptop (Asus Flow X16). It's got uniformity issues at low brightness, halos are visible and I have to manually change between dimming profiles depending on whether I want colour accuracy/uniformity or HDR/contrast/peak brightness. Its also obnoxiously bright in gaming if I get flashbanged etc. It doesn't rival OLED motion clarity either.

I'm sure mini LED will evolve (I think Asus has improved on the uniformity issue this year) but it isn't all roses.
 
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I don't think oled as a technology is overrated, self emissive technology is great.

The issue is the first generation of oled monitors just aren't quite there yet.

They're severely crippled in terms of their brightness, and they have issues with text fringing etc. When you combine that with someone using their monitor in bright viewing conditions the picture can look quite dull. An average lcd monitor will go much brighter, and flaws like black levels and dark screen uniformity is eased when viewing in bright conditions, infact lcd's look better in bright conditions, however most flaws become very noticeable in dark conditions.

The latest oled tv's on the other hand are absolutely amazing, and can go extremely bright!

No display technology is perfect though and it comes down to what flaws you can tolerate. I can't tolerate backlight bleed, clouding, ghosting seen on va panels for example. Due to the faster response time oled monitors have far better motion, it's been proven in reviews that a 240hz oled monitor has equivalent motion performance to say a 360hz lcd monitor for example.

I tend to view in darker conditions (blackout curtains with controlled lighting) so I'd always choose an oled monitor.
 
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