Olympic Road Cycling

Good news!
Cancellara's shoulder is pretty bashed up, but his collar bone isnt broken.
Not decided yet if he's going to ride the TT, i'd love to see him do it, but as long as he's ok, then i'm happy.

Tbh, i was more gutted today thinking that he had broken his collar bone again than i was that Cav didnt win.
<3 Sparticus
 
My next question is - why didn't they drop Cav off and go for it?
Not nice as a team but it's individuals not a team isn't it?

None of the GB team other than Cav are particularly strong at sprinting. So that chances are that if they just left cav behind and pushed on, they would just end up dragging somebody who is a stronger sprinter and then being outsprinted.

He might be world #1 but maybe one of the others should have forgot that and just gone for it?

Cav wasnt chosen as the team leader because of his reputation or status. He was chosen because of the way he earned those things. He is the fastest sprinter in the world and if they had managed to pull in the break, he probably would have won.
The GB tactic was to focus completely on Cav. Sacrifice the chances of everybody else in the team to try and set Cav up for the win. Obviously, this is a risk, and it didnt pay off this time, but i still think it was the best thing we could have done. Other teams had different tactics, USA, for example, have Tyler Farrar, who is a very good sprinter, but they gambled on putting a few guys in the break. So they had a chance of winning it whether or not the break got caught but the guys in the break were not great sprinters (althoug, Phinney got 4th i think?, so that's good for him) and Farrar would have been left on his own if it had come to a bunch sprint because the guys who were in the break would be too tired to help him.

You would expect everyone who had a rider in the top group to NOT help team GB chase them down as that could effect the outcome and they could go from gold to nowhere if there's a group. Wasn't it just the kazak guy and a columbian so the worst they could do is finish silver whereas if the group caught them up they would be nowhere....

Yep, if you have a team mate in the breakaway, you dont do any work to help chase him down. The breakaway was very big and there were a lot of different nationalities represented, so that worked against GB as not many people wanted to help.

The 2 guys who were 1st and 2nd sprinted away from the breakaway of around 33 riders at the 1kilometre to go point. When you are going very fast and you are that close to the end, it takes a lot of effort to catch those 2 again and you dont have time to recover to sprint for the end.
So what do you do if your behind those 2 in the lead group? Do you chase it yourself and then the other 30 guys in that group come flying past you on the line when you're knackered? Or do you wait and hope somebody else will chase?
If you watch the group behind when the 2 guys first sprint away you can see somebody working on the front trying to chase them down, then he moves to the side to let somebody else do some work, but nobody will help him, so the 2 in front build up a big lead and take the win.

For me thats the beauty of cycling I don't really know of any other sport where politics and tactics play such a major role.

Thats why they call it "Chess on wheels" ;)
 
They are slipstreaming each other, the same way that you see racing cars doing.
Riding very close behind somebody else means you use about 20-30% less effort. So they all take it in turns to shelter behind each other.
 
When is the indoor cycling? and are we expecting to do as well as we did in beijing?

Starts on thursday. It will be very difficult (maybe even impossible) to beat what we did in Bejing due to changes in the rules to now allow only 1 entry per event and also some events have been dropped.
 
I'm not sure why it's changed. I dont think any other events have the same rules, the 100M final, for example, is likely to have at least 2 jamaicans and americans in it.
 
My prediction - I think Cancellara is going to suffer from that crash, I think Froome is a bit underrated as he was phenomenal on Le Tour, so...
Cancellara is a tough one to call. He's says that he is still in a lot of pain from his crash but his legs are still fine, so he might be ok? A TT bike gives a lot more support to your arms/shoulders than a road bike does as well.

Wiggins and Froome did a lot of work in the road race to try and bring it together for Cav to sprint, so they might still be feeling that. Also remember that they were both high on GC in the tour during the TTs so they had a lot more motivation. Martin + Cancellara were way down (and Martin was injured as well) and had nothing to win other than the stage.

I'm going to go with:
1 - Martin
2 - Wiggins
3 - Cancellara
4 - Larsson
5 - Phinney
 
CMON WIGGO.

So excited. Didn't realise that if he wins a medal then he'll become the most successful British Olympian of all-time. And he's still got the track to come!

He's not racing any track this year.
The GB team pursuit lineup is:
Gerraint Thomas
Peter Kennaugh
Andy Tennant
Ed Clancy
Steven Burke

(4 riders in the team each race, they'll probably swap one around between qualifying and final to keep somebody fresh)

edit: also, there is no individual pursuit this year (which i think is one of the main reasons that wiggins decided to focus on road racing)
 
They had 5 of them, so why couldn't they slip stream eachother to spread the work load?
They tried. 4 of them split the work, and Cavendish sat behind them (to keep him fresh for a sprint).
But the breakaway had 30+ riders who were splitting the work load up front, so 4 vs 30 was never going to work in our favour.
 
I thought the breakaways gap was reduced from 5mins down to ~2 minutes whilst on Box Hill? So they certainly didn't climb that slow (slower than their usual though yes).

Most of the riders who were in the winning break went on the last climb of box hill.
There was a break before they got to the climb, which they were bringing back but i dont know if it was caught by the peleton before the next break went or not.
 
n00b question, why are the back-wheels different to the road-race ones?

The TT is all about aerodynamics (hence the weird helmets, etc). So most will be using a full disc wheel on the rear. They normal wheels they were using in the road race are lighter so are better for climbing and quick accelerations. Also, in the road race, a lot of the time will be spent riding behind somebody else in their slipstream, so aerodynamics are not so crucial.
Weight is not very important for the TT. It's ridden at a pretty much constant speed so there's very little accelerations. Aerodynamics are much more important for TT.
 
[DOD]Asprilla;22473088 said:
Cav and Jake Humphry.
Oh well, cant have it all.

It should be good to hear from somebody who has been there recently and really knows what it's like for the riders.

Not that i'm suggesting boardman doesnt know what he's talking about, i really like him, but it's been a while since he rode track.
 
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