one victim gets a broken neck, judge gives suspended sentence...(Belvoir Hunt vs Hunt Monitors)

How would you like random people to follow you around filming you continuously as you went about your lawful business, hiding in bushes and what not?
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Have you even read the circumstabces?
Just a few months later in March 2016 - aware we needed to spend more time with Inside Out, not easy as a small team that spans the length and breadth of the country– a last hurrah was suggested at the Belvoir Hunt’s final meet of the season.

Shortly after the huntsman rode out from the west side of the wood with the pack of hounds and I began to film. I then heard a quad bike. Now anyone who knows a thing or two about hunting will know that quad bikes usually signal the mysterious ‘terrier men’.

In traditional fox hunting a hunt would employ one or more terrier men, whose role it was to block fox earths and badger setts before a hunt - to prevent foxes from taking refuge below ground - and to deal with foxes that went to ground during the day’s hunting.

Since the Hunting Act came in, nobody has given a plausible reason as to why hunts continue to employ them, but they are commonly seen – even when hunts claim to be ‘trail’ hunting.

The terrier men’s quad started passing us, with two large boxes front and rear and two riders. They’d almost passed when they stopped sharply – they had recognised Darryl. “You’ve got a nerve showing up here”, said the older man, getting off the quad.

Blood dripping

“You know who I am?”, answered Darryl. We weren’t unduly concerned: there were two of them and two of us. We obviously don’t like to be spotted but sometimes these things happen, and we’ll always attempt to diffuse any situation that unfolds.

Darryl was amicable but the two terrier men were confrontational. “Go get the boys, Tom”, said the older man to his younger colleague. At that point - perhaps, in hindsight - we should have made a swift exit, but we were over a mile from the car and on foot and those who follow hunts are used to such threats so we weren’t too concerned.

The man named Tom took off on the quad while the older man stayed with us. A couple of minutes later he returned followed by a 4x4 with four masked men inside. They attacked Darryl and pushed him over the edge of the escarpment.

The original two terrier men held me and wrestled my camera from my hand. The younger one punched me in the head, while the older one restrained me and then he too pushed me over the escarpment.

The next thing I was aware of was silence – I called to Darryl but no response. I sat up and felt blood dripping down my face. My head was throbbing. Where was Darryl? I couldn’t see him. I called again and nothing.

Beyond repair

I walked across to where I thought he might have landed and saw him lying across some scree, hidden by undergrowth. Thankfully he was conscious. “Are you alright?”, I called. He wasn’t. He had pain in his neck and he couldn’t move his legs.

The next hour involved multiple phone calls for an ambulance, the police, our manager and finally the BBC reporter who was at the hunt. The location was remote.

The police arrived first, they responded quickly and we heard multiple sirens screaming around the area looking for the attackers. It was getting dark and cold by the time Darryl was hoisted into a specialist all-terrain, paramedic’s vehicle.

By the next day the dramatic rescue – filmed by the BBC – had made the national press and the two terrier men had been arrested. My stolen camera was returned by the men’s defence solicitor a few days later but was damaged beyond repair - including the memory card.

Darryl’s camera, which had been in his pocket throughout the incident, had continued to record audio – this went on to form a major part of the evidence against the men.

https://theecologist.org/2018/apr/1...or-tells-attack-left-colleague-fractured-neck

If the second one had been more severely injured from his fall like the first then they effectively left two men to die in a ditch.


They would have had a harsher sentence if they'd clipped them with the land rover and drove off.
 
They can can't they?

I may be wrong but I thought domestic violence is a defence if say the woman kills their abusive partner?


No no, i mean as a defence for domestic violence "I beat her up because she constantly non violently provoked me your lord"
As jokester is claiming these men were provoked by the hunt investigators
 
George Grant, terrier man for the Belvoir Hunt, and his son Thomas Grant pleaded guilty in early April at Leicester Crown Court to charges of grievous bodily harm on investigator Darryl Cunnington, actual bodily harm on myself, theft of a video camera and criminal damage of a memory card.

So serious bodily harm, actual bodily harm, theft and criminal damage (of possible ecidence) and litterally no punishment not even community service?


All on audio tape too...
 
sorry @Freakbro i didn't notice at the time



I'm not sure they're obliged to legally as Jokester has pointed out.

It perhaps ought to count against them though. I mean they've entered guilty pleas and brought in character witnesses to say this is completely out of character for them etc.. and that seems to have worked. But it does seem silly that an argument of it just being a case of flipping out has been accepted when he actually called "the boys" round and waited for them to deal with them and despite the argument that it is out of character + the guilty plea they still refused to cooperate and name the masked men. Maybe this is the standard sentence for this sort of thing in spite of lack of cooperation with the police but IMO it really shouldn't be.

hmm. i thought they changed the similar law w/ drivers, where you were required by law to ID how was in control of the car at the time of the offence, thought it would be similar, especially for a crime like this.
 
hmm. i thought they changed the similar law w/ drivers, where you were required by law to ID how was in control of the car at the time of the offence, thought it would be similar, especially for a crime like this.
yea the law is strange.....get a parking ticket and you are legally obliged to identify who was driving the car (if it wasn't you) but call in 4 masked men to assualt people and you can 'plead the 5th'....
 
Hilarious how people seem to be saying things like 'ohh my that seems they got off lightly' .........and a phrasing it in a polite careful way.........

THE RICH DO NOT LIVE BY THE SAME RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE !!!!

Of course they got off! It's WHO you know not WHAT you know or WHAT THE LAW IS.

Society is so horrendously bias its ridiculous - if it was any one else not connected with the royals and was of no use to the 'high class' - they would just follow the letter of the law, the law is for the commoner not the elite.
 
Hilarious how people seem to be saying things like 'ohh my that seems they got off lightly' .........and a phrasing it in a polite careful way.........

THE RICH DO NOT LIVE BY THE SAME RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE !!!!

Of course they got off! It's WHO you know not WHAT you know or WHAT THE LAW IS.

Society is so horrendously bias its ridiculous - if it was any one else not connected with the royals and was of no use to the 'high class' - they would just follow the letter of the law, the law is for the commoner not the elite.

Yeah it's all pretty bad, that breaking someone's neck in an obviously violent confrontation can allow someone to walk free out of court, with a suspended sentence.

Especially when you consider that you can be locked up for a bit of victimless tom-foolery on Facebook or Twitter,
 
"but he was asking for it your honour.."

"why didn't you say so, case dismissed!"

:rolleyes:


"How was he asking for it"

"Well he was on public land about a mile from us and our activity trying not to be noticed by us"


I wonder if a celebrity had a bunch of heavies smash some paparazzi up if they'd be let off.


I have no idea how you can give a character reference to a man withholding the twenty of 4 masked thugs who broke a man's neck as anything other than "scumbag".

You can't jist "flip" then maintain your scilence for yeara
 
Reminds me of a report I read years ago, where a hunt leader "sent an officer away", as he was "too busy to deal with him" during the hunt.

Above the law, indeed. Would love to see any of us dismiss an officer from our presence because we were otherwise engaged (possibly doing something illegal).
 
Have you even read the circumstabces?


https://theecologist.org/2018/apr/1...or-tells-attack-left-colleague-fractured-neck

If the second one had been more severely injured from his fall like the first then they effectively left two men to die in a ditch.


They would have had a harsher sentence if they'd clipped them with the land rover and drove off.

so it isn't even like they're random swampy/soap dodger animal rights types who have been screeching all day and generally being a nuisance... in fact they're equipped with telephoto lenses and are there simply as investigators acting on behalf of a charity... the guy who ended up with a broken neck is actually an ex police officer!

Makes it even more bizarre that this waiting around for the "boys" to arrive in masks can be passed off as some out of character moment where the hunt employee "flipped" - it isn't like they approached the hunt but rather the other way around.
 
Yeah it's all pretty bad, that breaking someone's neck in an obviously violent confrontation can allow someone to walk free out of court, with a suspended sentence.

Especially when you consider that you can be locked up for a bit of victimless tom-foolery on Facebook or Twitter,
I think most people might actually have missed the important facts here, this pair didn’t break anyone’s neck.
 
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