Opinion on the Range Rover Evoque (but the base 2WD model)?

Nasher · 17 Sep 2018 at 11:37

Simon said:
Rubbish

Tell that to the guy currently trying to remove a seat, which has rusted in place because the bolts go right through the floor (like you normally only see on very old cars) and water has seeped in

Simon · 17 Sep 2018 at 11:42

What sort of age car are you talking about.

Or is this people talking about new cars using the experience of 20yr old defender?

I’ve had rusted in seat bolts on my s2000. Hardly a measure of build quality! More the fact it leaked water. Bolts going through the entire floor is pretty normal by the way...

Nasher · 17 Sep 2018 at 11:44

A 20 year old defender is probably better built lol

This is a 2004, but the newer ones aren't much better. I'd say probably half of the ones I see have problems with the air suspension too. It's funny seeing a few lined up and all sitting wonky.

Firestar_3x · 17 Sep 2018 at 11:46

Comical stuff, i expected the long-term forum members to have better formed opinions.

Havana_UK · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:15

Nasher said:
A 20 year old defender is probably better built lol

This is a 2004, but the newer ones aren't much better. I'd say probably half of the ones I see have problems with the air suspension too. It's funny seeing a few lined up and all sitting wonky.

Which RR Evoque was built in 2004? (Hint: none were)
Which trim levels get air suspension? (Hint: none do)

Stop talking out of your ****.

Nasher · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:17

Havana_UK said:
Which RR Evoque was built in 2004? (Hint: none were)
Which trim levels get air suspension? (Hint: none do)

Stop talking out of your ****.

How the body looks is irrelevant, it's the same shoddy engineering underneath them. They go wrong, a lot. Owning any of them out of warranty is a huge gamble.

Havana_UK · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:18

Simon said:
How many you driven?

Mine was awesome in the snow as under the ‘pretty’ looks there is a proper 4WD system, obviously a mute point on the 2wd. The high driving is nice to see what’s going on and getting in and out (myself or child) is much easier than a saloon.

The handling is much more car like than you would expect from a car of its size and in comparison to everything else I have driven in that class.

They are popular for a reason

We have the SE Tech and I completely agree. For what they are the driving characteristics are surprisingly car like and relatively sporty. Considering they are somewhat similar to the Freelander 2 the handling is significantly better. On a side note I think both you and I are qualified to talk about them as being sporty since we both drive M3s as well!

vanpeebles · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:21

Nasher said:
How the body looks is irrelevant, it's the same shoddy engineering underneath them. They go wrong, a lot. Owning any of them out of warranty is a huge gamble.

The air compressors were made by Hitachi.

Havana_UK · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:22

Nasher said:
How the body looks is irrelevant, it's the same shoddy engineering underneath them. They go wrong, a lot. Owning any of them out of warranty is a huge gamble.

Unless you're talking from personal and relative experiences I think we can safely ignore your opinions. You cannot compare a 2004 Range Rover to a car launched in 2011.

ALL modern cars are complex, some more so than others, so you can argue that owning any modern car outside of warranty is a gamble. For example, I wouldn't want to own my M3 without a warranty. The potential bill if something goes wrong is huge.

Nasher · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:35

A 2011 would be the same generation as the one this guy owned afaik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

Kaka · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:43

Shame on all those eejits buying things they want with their money.

Firestar_3x · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:43

What does a 2002 released L322 have to do with a car first released in 2011?

Dis86 · 17 Sep 2018 at 12:45

Kaka said:
Shame on all those eejits buying things they want with their money.

Well...he is asking for OTHER PEOPLE'S opinions...

Havana_UK · 17 Sep 2018 at 13:39

Nasher said:
A 2011 would be the same generation as the one this guy owned afaik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvJCCoLoKRA

No...that’s a FF RR. We’re talkin about the Evoque.

jpaul · 17 Sep 2018 at 14:20

TheOracle said:
31. Land Rover - 50.6% reliability rating

ok ... i don't partrcularly trust whatcar/whathifi

BUT land rover don't even appear in german jdpower http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2017-2-3/577 did not have 500 examples.
But these comments https://www.osv.ltd.uk/are-range-rover-evoques-reliable/
and, as they indicate, categorisation as an unremrkable car in jdpower see https://www.jdpower.com/Cars/Crossovers
are not compelling w/o a delta warranty.

glenimp617 · 17 Sep 2018 at 15:01

jpaul said:
ok ... i don't partrcularly trust whatcar/whathifi

BUT land rover don't even appear in german jdpower http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2017-2-3/577 did not have 500 examples.
But these comments https://www.osv.ltd.uk/are-range-rover-evoques-reliable/
and, as they indicate, categorisation as an unremrkable car in jdpower see https://www.jdpower.com/Cars/Crossovers
are not compelling w/o a delta warranty.

Jesus, I had heard they were bad....but not THAT bad

"A study by What Car? Found that 71% of Range Rovers broke down after three years."

You're gonna need that warranty OP

Firestar_3x · 17 Sep 2018 at 15:09

What a stupid quote, no car is indefinitely reliable, and what is the definition of "broke down", does it mean in mean stranded at the side of the road?

Yaayuh! · 17 Sep 2018 at 16:13

Firestar_3x said:
What a stupid quote, no car is indefinitely reliable, and what is the definition of "broke down", does it mean in mean stranded at the side of the road?

Indeed. Does it include morons that don't properly maintain their cars?

jpaul · 17 Sep 2018 at 17:29

Does not sound so improbable that AA was needed for 71% in first 3 years, that's 1in4 per year, if you read all link

JD Power measures their reliability by looking at how many faults the car has suffered over the past year, models that score two out of five have scored just 20% out of 100%

[These evoque/LR comments, are more implausible maybe need a urban vehicle myths thread

They used to be stolen by hacking the keyless entry system, but even now they're as trendy, desirable and as proportionally overpriced as the latest iPhone, which is why I fear my folks are refusing to use their garage
....
We bought one last year and love it! No problems so far. In order to get insurance we had to fit a tracker but the one off cost reduced the cost of the premiums to a very low level.
.....
Well known Zambian saying
If you want to go into the bush take a Land Rover
If you want to come out again take a land cruiser.

]

Jonnycoupe · 17 Sep 2018 at 17:43

Nasher said:
How the body looks is irrelevant, it's the same shoddy engineering underneath them. They go wrong, a lot. Owning any of them out of warranty is a huge gamble.

Feel free to send me your CV.