Opinions Please

seaviewuk · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:32

DailyGeek said:
13 and smoking pot doesn't mean his life is ruined. He could still be a model citizen. Maybe he just needs some support himself? Although can't deny he needed removing from that situation!

There lies the problem. No male role model in his life.

LaEmeMexicana · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:34

DailyGeek said:
13 and smoking pot doesn't mean his life is ruined. He could still be a model citizen. Maybe he just needs some support himself? Although can't deny he needed removing from that situation!

*smokin dope, hitting woman, attacking pregnant woman, hitting young kids, telling police to **** off, telling social to **** off, not washing, not intrested in skool/exams.......oh yes, a model citizen!

steveo · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:35

seaviewuk said:
There lies the problem. No male role model in his life.

agreed i mean he is 13 smoking pot already been violent and abusive to his own mother he either needs to the **** kicked out of him to knock some sense in to him soon or like i siad he is a future ASBO winning which these kids seem to honour :confused:

DailyGeek · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:36

LaEmeMexicana said:
*smokin dope, hitting woman, attacking pregnant woman, hitting young kids, telling police to **** off, telling social to **** off, not washing, not intrested in skool/exams.......oh yes, a model citizen!

How about reading what I actually said if you are going to quote it.

Maybe he needs some support. He's 13. I wasn't like that at 13, and I wouldn't have been without a good reason. Clearly, some support is needed?

joeconway · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:37

ots3go said:
The little brat should count himself lucky he only got thrown out.

agreed

LaEmeMexicana · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:40

DailyGeek said:
How about reading what I actually said if you are going to quote it.

Maybe he needs some support. He's 13. I wasn't like that at 13, and I wouldn't have been without a good reason. Clearly, some support is needed?

*sorry, people like that deserve nothing.........except maybe a good beating!

steveo · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:40

DailyGeek said:
How about reading what I actually said if you are going to quote it.

Maybe he needs some support. He's 13. I wasn't like that at 13, and I wouldn't have been without a good reason. Clearly, some support is needed?

not sure how old you are geek but most likely when you where 13 it was a much different world, i mean am 25 and i remember been able to stay out late at night camping in random fields not having to worry about other people attacking you, alcohol wasnt a problem and drug and solvent abuse was minimal

LaEmeMexicana · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:43

steveo said:
not sure how old you are geek but most likely when you where 13 it was a much different world, i mean am 25 and i remember been able to stay out late at night camping in random fields not having to worry about other people attacking you, alcohol wasnt a problem and drug and solvent abuse was minimal

*im 25+, & i remember those days well......

Slam62 · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:43

LaEmeMexicana said:
*smokin dope, hitting woman, attacking pregnant woman, hitting young kids, telling police to **** off, telling social to **** off, not washing, not intrested in skool/exams.......oh yes, a model citizen!

Your tone doesn't indicate you're on the road to a happy family, you need to be a lot more grown up and help him sort out his issues, he probably feels very insecure.

DailyGeek · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:44

steveo said:
not sure how old you are geek but most likely when you where 13 it was a much different world, i mean am 25 and i remember been able to stay out late at night camping in random fields not having to worry about other people attacking you, alcohol wasnt a problem and drug and solvent abuse was minimal

I'm 24. The world isn't that different. Granted there are compounded drugs problems etc and 'ASBO' culture. But these things have always existed in some form or another.

The problem at hand is that we have a 13 year old who is clearly a social tearaway. Violence, drug use etc - yes it's shocking. But try and remember he is 13 - barely a teenager. The right level of support/counselling at the right time can make all the difference. Might stop him turning into a Dad at 15, in prison at 17 etc.

What I'm saying is there is a reason he is like this, and condemning him to another asbo statistic at 13, isn't going to help him or anyone else.

I'm still curious to know how the NSPCC got involved?

LaEmeMexicana said:
*sorry, people like that deserve nothing.........except maybe a good beating!

That's the worst attitude you could have if you want the sitaution to change at all. Says it all really.

DailyGeek · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:47

double post

NiCkNaMe · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:48

LaEmeMexicana said:
*sorry, people like that deserve nothing.........except maybe a good beating!

Deserves a chance... he's still really young.

His mum needs sterilising if she can't bring one child up reasonably IMO. She should be ashamed.

steveo · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:49

while i understand where your coming from geek i dont think its going to happen for him it would be nice if it did but he also needs to ask for help himself as well before other people can help him

DailyGeek · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:50

steveo said:
while i understand where your coming from geek i dont think its going to happen for him it would be nice if it did but he also needs to ask for help himself as well before other people can help him

That's where a responsible adult is needed for support. Unfortunately violence breeds violence.

LaEmeMexicana · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:53

Slam62 said:
Your tone doesn't indicate you're on the road to a happy family, you need to be a lot more grown up and help him sort out his issues, he probably feels very insecure.

*sorry dude, i have no time for people like that, & i never will......

Slam62 · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:54

LaEmeMexicana said:
*sorry dude, i have no time for people like that, & i never will......

oh well your loss

A2Z · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:55

whats with the '*' infront of your posts?

Things change I've changed · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:55

DailyGeek said:
Maybe he needs some support. He's 13. I wasn't like that at 13, and I wouldn't have been without a good reason. Clearly, some support is needed?

Agreed nobody actually wants to be like that, seems to me he is in need of some serious help, sooner the better tbh, what he done was very bad and should'nt go unpunished but people like this need help and just throwing him out is'nt going to make things any better.

LaEmeMexicana · 17 Jun 2007 at 16:56

Slam62 said:
oh well your loss

*i have twins to bring up, 'my loss', i doubt that, he aint my son........my son is a cheeky lil boy into everything...

DailyGeek · 17 Jun 2007 at 17:02

LaEmeMexicana said:
*i have twins to bring up, 'my loss', i doubt that, he aint my son........my son is a cheeky lil boy into everything...

What if your son is like that at 13? You'll give him that damn good beating too?