Ordering from OCuk....

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Good evening folks....it's been a while since I was on here!!

Anyway, I have been conversing with Sam from OCuk (very helpful and prompt replies by the way :)) however, considering I have so many bloody queries probably best to pickle the heads of some other guys on here......if you don't mind!! :D

I have pretty much settled on buying the i5 prebuilt machine but my queries really centre around the ram and gfx card.

As I will be using the machine for general activities and also as a DAW (digital audio workstation) I was wanting to up the ram to at least 8gb........however, Sam has said that because of the overclock this couldn't be done.

My problem is I also want the processor to be as powerful as possible. Is there a way around this or which would people recommend as a general consensus if I am wanting to run music software on the PC. RAM or Overclock or both (if possible!!)?

As for the graphics card I really like the look of the ATi5850 but considering the PC will primarily be used for PES 11 I think this may be overkill and the ATi5770 would suffice??

I hope to connect it to a LG 42LD690 and I am presuming I will be able to get the full PC resolution on this TV?

If anyone can give any advice I'd really appreciate it as I am starting to get on my own nerves..........never mind Sam at OCuk who has been getting his ear bent with queries!! :D

Cheers
Dee
 
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maybe get an i7?

I know it is much more expensive but you will get 6GB RAM standard and still have a high overclock on your pc.
 
Hi there Dee.

With the overclock + more ram I think the point the OCUK guys were making was that they can't guarantee the overclock on a prebuilt system if you fill up all 4 RAM slots - as it puts more strain on the memory controller. However, this does not mean that it isn't possible - it just means you have to pay someone more to set it up for you or do it yourself. Another option is to use higher density RAM sticks such as these.

Another option is to go down the i7, X58 route. This is more expensive than the i5 / p55 route, but in multi threaded applications (is your audio software heavily multithreaded?) it can be up to 25% faster than the i5 and is made to take more RAM - 6GB (3x2GB) in triple channel mode is generally the standard configuration.

Have you considered building and overclocking the system yourself? It will end up costing you less and you get a system with a configuration 100% tailored to you.

As for the graphics, yes that TV will be fine - the PC will render everything at the native 1920x1080 resolution. However, you may want to replace the competitor link with TV name and model number.
 
Many thanks lads, I appreciate all the advice. Initially I was looking at the i7 and then thought with an i5 overclocked that would suffice. But with the ram still being an issue (Sam recommended NO overclock on the i5 and 8gb ram due to the music requirements) I may considering the i7 again as the extra 2gb ram and processor power will be nice.....just don't tell the Mrs as getting this, that TV and a PS3 at the same time means I'll have to continue to use my charm on her!! :D

As for the gfx card, is the GTX460 a much better card than the 5770? For £20 more that is no problem but I was worried that the GTX range might run hotter than the ATI and with the overclock things might get a bit hot!!

ps: I forgot about posting the link - I've removed it now :) I have let myself get out of the loop a bit with current tech, hence the numerous questions. So many thanks to everyone for helping me out :)

pps: Andi - I forgot to answer your point about a self build. I am savvy enough when it comes to PCs and I have been talking about building one for ages.....however, I am a bit nervous due to the money involved and on this occasion I think it would be best for me to pay the bit extra and have the pros at OCuk do it for me. I will try it in the future though.......at some stage!! :)
 
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I have a GTX 460 (model in sig) and it runs at 30 idle and 50 at load which is not hot at all.

Overclocked its at 40 idle 60+ load.
 
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just don't tell the Mrs as getting this, that TV and a PS3 at the same time means I'll have to continue to use my charm on her!! :D
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How about just use the PC for gaming as well instead of buying PS3 (if you are not playing PS3 exclusive games), and also grabbing a GTX460 1GB instead? :D
 
+1 from me for the ati 5850, I think it's a great graphics card and plays pretty much everything I throw at it on my i7 system. although I haven't tried a 460 so can't comment on that.. :D
 
I've ordered :eek: :D

I'm all biz :p

I decided to not go OTT but I still think I have a nice system for the money.

I went with the "onyx" so I have an overclocked i7 with 6gb ram.....and I also went for the GTX460 768mb because of the current price drop (£99!!).

I'm sure it'll play PES 11 OK :D

The processor and RAM should be nice for my music applications too.

Thanks for all the help above and hopefully everything goes fine with the delivery.
 
the i7 would certaintly be better than the i5, and im sure u'll be happy with the performance :)

as for the memory, as the memory controller is now on the CPU, the more lanes it needs to control, the more strain it has.
this is y it limits the overclock.

althou u can still overclock, its just harder to hit the higher speeds like 4ghz.
i found with 12gb, it was easy to get to 3.6, and 3.8 with abit of a push, but 4ghz was difficult, and i had to push up the voltages quite abit

so if u ever decide u need more ram, u could always drop the overclock slightly. 3.8 is still pretty quick
 
Cycrow - exactly mate. Because of the need for RAM due to some of my music applications if I find myself needing more than the 6gb I can always "un"overclock (I think I'm a technical genius now :D) and add more RAM.

I'm delighted with what I've settled on. I was looking at the i5 and the more expensive i7 "viper" but I think the former was a bit overpriced and the latter a bit too much. I think I have a nice balance with the "onyx" and the fact that I have an i7, 6gb ram and a decent gfx card for £913 delivered to Ireland, pre built is a nice compromise.

In the future I will definitely look in to building my own and I intend to dismantle 2 older computers I have and have a mess around with them at some stage but at this moment in time when I just want a good PC to do what it says with no hassle this prebuilt system is perfect for me. While the £££ may be a fair bit higher than if I was building myself I don't mind paying it considering I'm getting the components and the pro's at OCuk to build it for me.

Happy days :)
 
wow.you were able to put on that much charm that your missus has let you order all that stuff???? can you drop by here for an hour and charm my missus for me.i aint getting anywhere
 
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wow.you were able to put on that much charm that your missus has let you order all that stuff???? can you drop by here for an hour and charm my missus for me.i aint getting anywhere
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If she has a pulse and a nice pair of jugs it will be a pleasure :) I will also do it free of charge :D

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save urself the money gettin a ps3 just use the pc man and get drivers for the dualshock 3 controller
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I'm gonna hold off, initially at least. I will be playing PES 11 on the 360 so not sure to just get a wired controller for the PC or go for the PS pad. When I was a PES addict in the last generation (up to PES6) I used my PS2 pad on the PC........another decision that will probably take me ages to work out :D
 
dee said:
If she has a pulse and a nice pair of jugs it will be a pleasure :) I will also do it free of charge :D



I'm gonna hold off, initially at least. I will be playing PES 11 on the 360 so not sure to just get a wired controller for the PC or go for the PS pad. When I was a PES addict in the last generation (up to PES6) I used my PS2 pad on the PC........another decision that will probably take me ages to work out :D
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Im a pes head mate, been addicted to every single one so far and play it all year until the next one comes out. Im currently on ps3, ordering all my parts for a new rig this weekend, already got my case CM storm scout, Just in time for the new F1 2010 and PES 11. Ive never played any of the PES games on a pc tho, can anyone confirm if its better?, ie the online mode coz its been a joke on the consoles since pes 5 or 6.
 
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