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Resaonable win here i think TvT. Any pointers would be good though. http://www.mediafire.com/?3uscp9tpim9x75x

Also how the hell do i defend a zergling rush. Guy just sent 5 at me at which point i only had 1 marine out and there was nothing i could do. 2nd time its happened to me today.

Had a watch, here's some of the main points:

1. Need to try not to get supply blocked, happened twice. Didn't cost you though which is good. It's easy to do though when you are pumping out marauders and marines with 2 or 3 rax as it adds up really quickly.
2. You made a huge queue mid-game for Marauders and Marines, and your minerals were very high. You had a second base up and running, and you could have supported at least another 2 rax for unit production instead of having huge queues.
3. No missile turrets guarding a good chunk of your depots, your ebay, both starports, a factory and your armory. Because you never knew what was coming, if he flew in a banshee squad and hit that area it could have been really bad. Just noticed another post you made as well a couple above this about the Banshee issue and no turrets.
4. No early or mid game pressure at all, if you exclude the suicide marine. In fact the first attack was the game ending attack which was near enough at 17 minutes. You had so many units in your base idling you could have forced some early pressure before he got his siege tanks out.
5. Probably should have set out getting another expansion going, at the end you had so many SCV's mining 1 node in the main as the rest had gone, and that node had 20 minerals left. It didn't really matter for that game as you won't it there and then, but something to think about.

Also some of the niggles, which are small things really:

1. Built a tech lab onto your factory but never used it, could have used it if you switched the 3rd barracks and factory over to save you time and minerals building a tech lab onto the barracks. You could have also built a reactor onto that factory and then switched it with your starport to get your medivacs and vikings faster. In fact I didn't see any reactors, could have used one.
2. Didn't see any need for the armory.
3. Using a marine as a scout is a bad idea. By the time you get infantry out they almost certainly will have, and by the time you get that infantry to their base especially on a large run like Scrap Station, they will have more than 1.
4. Your wall-off wasn't walled off (it's hard to do on Scrap Station)
5. At the start with your 2 barracks you built 2 tech labs and just alternated marine and marauder from both, could have just skipped one tech lab.
6. Gas and minerals at natural expo wasn't saturated
7. Bunker placement at natural expo was a bit odd?
8. Got Concussive Shells upgrade so fast at the start, when you had 1 or 2 marauders.
9. Your second army in the base was very Marauder heavy.
10. Main base Orbital Command was quite late.

Quite a lot of points there, wasn't trying to be overly negative was just picking up all the points you might want feedback on. There were good bits from you, like your MULE control was good, your building placement was good to avoid scans but got a little conjested on the right side, your reaction time to get supply blocked a second time and getting some drops in was superb - most would just build another depot or two instead.

My opinions anyway :) others may disagree.
 
Thanks for the review, much appreciated.

Supply block is something im working on it happens far too often when im busy pumping out units.
Good point.
Always forget :rolleyes:
This has always been my play style since the first C&C. Need to try work out when to pressure as i often get pressurd first and put on the back foot. I guess i think uber huge army will hold off their pressure then secure a victory which it does if i can get that far....

As for the niggles i have an excuse for one but the rest are fair points :D

Armoury was to further upgrade infantry attack/defence.

Anyway i get the full game tomorrow but wont get a chance to play much before leeds fest. Will put my name up next week if any noobs want some matches :p
 
Crikey, i jumped into my first MP game, and got my ass handed to me within 5 mins :O i had 5 marines and that was it, was too busy building factorys etc, to start building...is this the way its likely to be, if it is i cant do that.
 
Crikey, i jumped into my first MP game, and got my ass handed to me within 5 mins :O i had 5 marines and that was it, was too busy building factorys etc, to start building...is this the way its likely to be, if it is i cant do that.

you not playing practice mode, so those rocks protect you at very start? i would say play random team for a few games to get the hand of it before going into 1v1 the players who play random team generally don't rush as much and give you chance to learn a little
 
omg decided to jump into 2v2 placements - what the hell is this like uber noob mode? ie all my team mates bar 1 didnt have a clue! shocking.....im not amazing but i have a basic understanding of the game which they did not.
also got 2team proxy rushed on the first game! barely had 4 marines before i see 15 stumbling towards my base watched the replay and they didnt buy any drones and just got depots and rax.....i ****ing scouted aswell and new something was up but couldnt find their rax.
....lame.
 
you not playing practice mode, so those rocks protect you at very start? i would say play random team for a few games to get the hand of it before going into 1v1 the players who play random team generally don't rush as much and give you chance to learn a little

Practice mode no, it wouldnt find anyone when searching, so i skipped it and went 1v1, i seriously have no idea how anyone masses soo many resources to spam units at me within 5 mins :( Ill keep at it and see if i get better.
 
Just takes practice. I got my ass handed to me every match but im starting to win some now. Watch vids on youtube hdstarcraft and forcesc2strategy are some great channels.
 
Practice mode no, it wouldnt find anyone when searching, so i skipped it and went 1v1, i seriously have no idea how anyone masses soo many resources to spam units at me within 5 mins :( Ill keep at it and see if i get better.

a lot of people you have played against have probably played 30+ games before you or more! so no wonder find it hard first game
 
I played my first MP game last week, I casually sat building stuff at what i thought was a decent pace. Then about 7 massive mech things stormed my base and pummeled me - All i had were infantry.

I don't particularly want to 'live' the game to learn the speed building ways etc. I'd have to have no life to have time to do that. Anyway, i don't mind getting beat, i'm happy that some layabout doley got a rise and gained a false sense of achievement from wasting their life learning the ways of SC2, it makes me smile - until i look at how much tax i'm paying to actually fund someone to beat me! lol :D
 
I played my first MP game last week, I casually sat building stuff at what i thought was a decent pace. Then about 7 massive mech things stormed my base and pummeled me - All i had were infantry.

I don't particularly want to 'live' the game to learn the speed building ways etc. I'd have to have no life to have time to do that. Anyway, i don't mind getting beat, i'm happy that some layabout doley got a rise and gained a false sense of achievement from wasting their life learning the ways of SC2, it makes me smile - until i look at how much tax i'm paying to actually fund someone to beat me! lol :D

What a terrible attitude. :rolleyes:
 
What the hell is wrong with the Terrans today?

I've played 2 terrans back to back, and both of them have gone mass Vikings. WTF. I'm Zerg thats basically the best thing I could hope for in a ZvT.

The first one went mass vikings + banshees and sat in his base and did well **** knows. I took half of Kulas, build one of every building an thought. Well best push in then. He killed my army. with his cloaked banshees (he had the presence of mind to take out my overseer with his 50 million vikings first) I was happy with that as it meant I could make Ultras (I was 200 200) He counters. I killed everything (I think he killed a few hydras and a queen. I romped over to his base with my ultra+hydra force GG.

Second game Mass Vikings again. He went vikings a bit early so I stuck up a Spire, not in an obvious place but the base was small enough that he would see it eventually. then lobbed up a hydra den. He sniped a few overlords. made a bit of a pain of himself but I had good visability of the map so I expanded. I was a bit strapped for cash so couldn't quite bash out a bunch of hydras and he flew in, landed and took out my spire. Fair enough, I wasn't using it anyway. I killed off way more than its cost in vikings all the same.

I then lobbed down a roach warren. As I just didn't feel right going ling hydra. Low and behold in comes a viking hellion push. Cleared that up with my hydra ling (just as the roaches were popping) I knew he had just expanded to a far expo So I pushed at that with roach hydra... whilst building some Ultras. Not a great push he had a gazillion hellions and vikings (not sure why he didn't use those in his push he would have beaten me.) he chased me back to my base to meet my ultras that were waiting. I then countered back to his expo with about 6 ultras and 6 hyrdas. Took out the force there and killed the expo. He started to build an expo at his natural. So I pushed up with my Ultras and GG.

Its odd how a game against a Terran using "The wrong Unit Composition" still takes bloody ages for Zerg. Also What is with the mass Vikings? Is there some recent pro game where it worked that I have not seen?
 
I played my first MP game last week, I casually sat building stuff at what i thought was a decent pace. Then about 7 massive mech things stormed my base and pummeled me - All i had were infantry.

I don't particularly want to 'live' the game to learn the speed building ways etc. I'd have to have no life to have time to do that. Anyway, i don't mind getting beat, i'm happy that some layabout doley got a rise and gained a false sense of achievement from wasting their life learning the ways of SC2, it makes me smile - until i look at how much tax i'm paying to actually fund someone to beat me! lol :D

Funny. I've a high paying, demanding (40-72 hour weeks) job, a family and I'm still good enough to hold my own in this game. I'm sure that a lot of people posting in this thread are the same. Not entirely sure what the point of your post is. Someone you know nothing about beat you, so clearly because this game is not mario kart or Fifa he must be a layabout dolescum :rolleyes:
 
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I played my first MP game last week, I casually sat building stuff at what i thought was a decent pace. Then about 7 massive mech things stormed my base and pummeled me - All i had were infantry.

I don't particularly want to 'live' the game to learn the speed building ways etc. I'd have to have no life to have time to do that. Anyway, i don't mind getting beat, i'm happy that some layabout doley got a rise and gained a false sense of achievement from wasting their life learning the ways of SC2, it makes me smile - until i look at how much tax i'm paying to actually fund someone to beat me! lol :D

Reminds me of people who cant play xbox and blame it due to having 'lives' when in actual fact they sit on facebook all day :rolleyes:
 
Practice mode no, it wouldnt find anyone when searching, so i skipped it and went 1v1, i seriously have no idea how anyone masses soo many resources to spam units at me within 5 mins :( Ill keep at it and see if i get better.

My best piece of advice is watch the replays (especially the replays against your race) See what they are doing, and what they are building. Look at the clock and say to yourself, "By this time he has built x workers, y buildings and z units. I have to do better than that"
 
Reminds me of people who cant play xbox and blame it due to having 'lives' when in actual fact they sit on facebook all day :rolleyes:

Heh! Thankfully i don't have an xbox and i don't even have a facebook account. Spending time on FB? I'd much rather gnaw my own hands off. Infact i've spent too long online now so i'm off :D


Funny. I've a high paying, demanding (40-72 hour weeks), a family and I'm still good enough to hold my own in this game.

You've clearly played it, or games like it for a while longer than me. Personally i'd rather spend my spare time with the family. But, each to his own i suppose.
 
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Heh! Thankfully i don't have an xbox and i don't even have a facebook account. Spending time on FB? I'd much rather gnaw my own hands off. Infact i've spent too long online now so i'm off :D




You've clearly played it, or games like it for a while longer than me. Personally i'd rather spend my spare time with the family. But, each to his own i suppose.

Played it since April. And its not your skill level that's in question, its your attitude towards people that are better than you. The children go to bed in the evenings ;) The missus always wants to watch Eastenders/Corrie. There is always time to practice, you enjoy something you get better at it.

NB I am in no way saying "You must like this game" "If you spent more time playing it you'd get better". I'm just saying that your post and tone of your post was unnecessarily condescending and frankly wrong.
 
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Personally i'd rather spend my spare time with the family

Absolutely nothing wrong with (good if anything) but why are you in here telling us that?

If you want some tips for how to improve your game (and it isn't a life commitment like you think) then just post a replay and some bored uni student (i.e. me :p) will have a ganders and give a few pointers.
 
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