online now if anybody wants to play a few, might stream some too
Luxotican.425
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So I've finally realised what a heathen piece of scum I've been playing Zerg and I'm going back to Terran!
However, I can no longer just herp-a-derp pool/hatch/gas > scout > counter so I need a bit of help starting off as Terran in HotS.
Blade55555 did an awesome Zerg beginners guide on Teamliquid but I can't see the equivalent for Terran. Any pointers?
However, I can no longer just herp-a-derp pool/hatch/gas > scout > counter so I need a bit of help starting off as Terran in HotS.
Blade55555 did an awesome Zerg beginners guide on Teamliquid but I can't see the equivalent for Terran. Any pointers?
Soldato
I'm in the dark with Terran myself, really enjoy playing them, i'm just not as good with them as I am with Zerg.
I've not seen the Zerg guide your referring to but I find that watching Streams has helped me a lot. Demuslim always talks through his builds and does replay analysis, its improved my Terran a lot. probably to Diamond standard. Haven't put in enough effort for it to be better.. but that might be worth a shot!
I've not seen the Zerg guide your referring to but I find that watching Streams has helped me a lot. Demuslim always talks through his builds and does replay analysis, its improved my Terran a lot. probably to Diamond standard. Haven't put in enough effort for it to be better.. but that might be worth a shot!
Terran builds seem to be going as follows -
Reaper rush - now they regen health, they are very annoying poking in and out of your base, also very quick now.
Widow mine drop/push. Seen this a few times versus protoss as it forces protoss to get observer etc if widow mine drop/place in around mineral line. generally delays/harasses them.
Generally tank/marine/stim seems to be the most seen build I've come across recently.
Reaper rush - now they regen health, they are very annoying poking in and out of your base, also very quick now.
Widow mine drop/push. Seen this a few times versus protoss as it forces protoss to get observer etc if widow mine drop/place in around mineral line. generally delays/harasses them.
Generally tank/marine/stim seems to be the most seen build I've come across recently.
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OMG
Group B: PartinG, Life, INnoVation and flash............. :O
This is gonna be amazing
. You guys should tune in on May 2nd in the morning. Best stream is here. For those who haven't been keeping track, flash and INnoVation are considered the two best Terran players in the world at the moment, Life is considered the best Zerg and PartinG has for a long time been among the top 3 Protoss players. Should see some awesome games out of these guys.
Group B: PartinG, Life, INnoVation and flash............. :O
This is gonna be amazing
. You guys should tune in on May 2nd in the morning. Best stream is here. For those who haven't been keeping track, flash and INnoVation are considered the two best Terran players in the world at the moment, Life is considered the best Zerg and PartinG has for a long time been among the top 3 Protoss players. Should see some awesome games out of these guys.
Soldato
Terran build wise I tend to always open 1 rax reaper FE. quite safe, and you can get all your scouting done with your reapers!
That's what I currently do. Zerg are so much easier though, and much more forgiving.
Opening:
Rax Gas FE
Terran:
Marine/Tank
Zerg:
Double Hellion > Double Widow Mine > Hellbat/Thor/Raven
Protoss:
MMMM + Viking if they get Colossi
Opening:
Rax Gas FE
Terran:
Marine/Tank
Zerg:
Double Hellion > Double Widow Mine > Hellbat/Thor/Raven
Protoss:
MMMM + Viking if they get Colossi
Awesome group, but it's basically all the players I would have liked to see in the finals. I'll be surprised if whoever wins this doesn't take it all.
Soldato
How do you mean by forgiving?
Yeah those are generally the builds I head for, vs Zerg I go for an extra CC too, Also had more success with Bio/Mine builds than I have with mech builds. That could just be a play style thing though!
I'm stumped vs Protoss though, I'm actually useless ^^
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Yeah, any of the 4 of them are worthy winners. It does seem a shame only two are gonna be going forwards. I think the story behind the group goes something like this:
PartinG gets first pick. He chooses Life because the two have a rivalry and history of trash talk and PartinG wants to show him who's boss. Life then picks INnoVation because he thinks PartinG would lose to INnoVation if they end up playing. INnoVation gets to pick the 4th player. He looks at the group and sees it's basically a group of death already so just goes "**** it" and chooses flash haha.
Personally I'd say flash is the best player in the group, and in the world at the moment, but I'm aware that's not a fact but just my opinion. Life is a very good player but I don't think he plays such a perfect mechanical and intelligent game as flash does. One thing going in favour of Life is that ZvZ is by far his worst matchup and there aren't any other Zergs in the group. Flash knocked out both PartinG and INnoVation at the last MLG so I'd say he'll be able to do the same again. Life beat flash 4-2 in the final to take the win but I think it's pretty even between them. Flash's TvZ = Life's ZvT. However flash's TvT is much superior to Life's ZvZ and I would say their XvP matchups are probably on par. INnoVation is very strong against Protoss but if the group plays out as I expect he won't get a chance to play against Protoss. PartinG's always been famed for his PvT flash is probably still gonna beat him.
The first games will be PartinG vs Life then INnoVation vs flash. My prediction is that PartinG beats Life 2-1 and flash beats INnoVation 2-0. Then Life beats INnoVation 2-1 and flash beats PartinG 2-0. Final game is between PartinG and Life again and Life will win 2-1. As a result, flash and Life will proceed to ro8 and INnoVation and PartinG will be eliminated. I called it first
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Yeah, what a great tournament! The production was awesome, huge viewer count on the stream and a big audience actually at the event too, as well as some awesome games of starcraft
Leenock deserved the win for sure, but I was rooting for Jaedong. He was such a boss in BW and is a really cool guy. I think he'll be improving steadily much like flash has (albeit JD seems to be doing so more slowly). I like JD's aggressive style. Much more interesting to watch than the normal zerg macro play. It's also what I like about Leenock.
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gonna do some streaming of 1v1 NA ladder now if anyone is interested ^^
link here
gonna be 1v1ing as either zerg/protoss. i'm probably high dia/masters (on NA since they all suck) with those two races but currently ranked in plat so i wanna power through some games to rank up
link here
gonna be 1v1ing as either zerg/protoss. i'm probably high dia/masters (on NA since they all suck) with those two races but currently ranked in plat so i wanna power through some games to rank up
Soldato
Think I still have a WoL NA account too, not used it in ages though
Soldato
noticed that this thread isn't as active as it once was!
Does anybody know the state of the UK Starcraft scene these days?.. top teams/players etc... I've spent quite a while ''out of the game'' so pardon my ignorance
Does anybody know the state of the UK Starcraft scene these days?.. top teams/players etc... I've spent quite a while ''out of the game'' so pardon my ignorance
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UK starcraft scene is virtually nonexistant as far as I have seen. We only have one good player (DeMuslim) and he has moved to america. There aren't many fans of esports here, not enough to have any big tournaments nor any good players which can make an impact in foreign ones. Even DeMuslim, as one of the best foreign terrans, is yet to achieve any standout result.
Soldato
Anyone done their placement match for the new season yet?
The guy I work with and a load of his friends have all pretty much been demoted at least 1 division so seems a bit tough. I should be able to do mine later on, hoping I can stay in Gold as I'm just about getting my head round it after 2 wins last night.
The guy I work with and a load of his friends have all pretty much been demoted at least 1 division so seems a bit tough. I should be able to do mine later on, hoping I can stay in Gold as I'm just about getting my head round it after 2 wins last night.
Soldato
There's a couple of good GM (or at least GM standard) UK players... or at least there used to be... I'm a big fan of DeMuslim though. Shame its non existent now though, It was starting to build up quite a lot in the WoL days!
I was in Masters in WoL, but not having played for a long time, 18 Months or so, I got placed in Platinum. hanging around top of Diamond now though, so should be getting back into Masters soon!
From what I've heard/seen, The placements SEEMED treated everybody like they were new players, didn't really take previous seasons into consideration etc...
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Gonna do them now
DeMuslim is awesome, I really hope he can translate his improvement over the last year into some tournament results. He's an entertaining player to watch (action all over the map) and a nice guy too. There are still plenty of SC2 players and fans in the UK but don't seem to be very concentrated in any particular area so it's hard to really meet many. I don't know why but it seems like the scandinavian esports scene is far larger than over here despite us having like triple the population of all of the scandinavian countries added together. It's a shame but doesn't matter too much to me. I can follow all the major tournaments via streams and I can play SC2 with my flatmate so I'm happy. It'd be nice to get some OcUK tournaments on the go though, but I'm not sure there's enough people on here to make much of it. I'm sure there enough players but I guess most of them don't bother reading this thread.
You mean the placements at the start of HotS or the placements today for season 2? It'd be weird if today's placements treated people like new players...
BTW update your man cave thread! ^_^
I hope I get demoted to gold or something as I'm bored of getting beaten all the time by the seemingly endless Protoss deathball!!
I can deal with zerg ok, 50/50 against terran (which generally seems to be a race to who gets fastest/most tanks/marines) but protoss I must win 1 in 10 at best. once protoss get the stalkers/collosus/HT ball it's game over every time for me.
I can deal with zerg ok, 50/50 against terran (which generally seems to be a race to who gets fastest/most tanks/marines) but protoss I must win 1 in 10 at best. once protoss get the stalkers/collosus/HT ball it's game over every time for me.
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