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Guest2 said:
So 10 high templar = 10 nukes? Wouldnt it be quicker and easier to churn carriers out with upgrades?
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You can get templars immediately you have to pre-order your carriers before you start the game. ;)

Also I'm not sure that 10 templars = 10 nukes. Its an PSI Storm AOE lightening attack that does 80 damage over 4 second IIRC) As I said earlier, its mainly used to wound enemy units, disrupt the enemy's flow of attack and deter the enemy from pursuing a retreating force, not kill outright.

If you used PSI and force field together intelligently you could increase the amount of damage units sustain to the maximum (i.e. block both ends of a narrow choke point and drop the PSI on the units trapped) If you had 5 sentries you could even box enemy units in in the open field. then drop the PSI.
 
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Guest2 said:
So 10 high templar = 10 nukes? Wouldnt it be quicker and easier to churn carriers out with upgrades?
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hmmm not really comparable to a nuke.
Storm costs energy, and can be cast iquickly.
It also forces the enemy units to micro out of the storms, which allows Protoss units to get some free hits, which of course are quite valuble :)
especially ontop of the damage from the storm.
 
Indie said:
quite like the radius of the Storm at the moment, i thought it was huge before the patch. more on par with sc1 now. still very powerful, especially vs a zerg player.

what does everybody think of the Brood Lords btw? i've recently started using them more, and in perticular vs Protoss they seem extreamly good. and had many Protoss players QQ in game that they don't have anti air to kill them etc..
Thoughts?
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I have to admit that I don't mind them that much. It seems a bit counterintuitive but I've found the best counter to them is zealots or ideally collossii, as it is the ever-increasing swarm of broodlings which deal the majority of the damage over time, not the initial hits. Once you have a way to cope with the little gits the brood lords themselves actually die quickly to stalkers/sentries, although it never works out quite so smoothly as there is usually a great big wall of roaches and hydras in the way. :)
 
Stalkers vs Brood Lords you say?


That happened yesterday on orb's stream, and someone put it to the wombo combo SSBM vid audio. That game was was quite epic, orb used so many forcefields it was ridiculous.
 
OT: but can someone explain the whole wombo combo thing? SSBM is one game that honestly confuses me. When I watch it at a high level it confuses the hell out of me.
 
How about using vortex to suck in a load of units then cast a few PSI storms on top? On would the psi/nuke or whatever only work when everything is out of the vortex

Whats SSBM?

I still dont use hotkeys, only ctrl & 1 and ctrl & 2. Has anyone posted a guide somewhere for all the keyboard controls? Such as hotkeys for nexus chrono boost, switching nexus/command/hatchery. I want to be able to battle whilst still building stuff. I usually find im in a huge battle then when its almost done the oppsoition has some more units and i have none but have 2000 mineral and 2000 gas :rolleyes:
 
Guest2 said:
How about using vortex to suck in a load of units then cast a few PSI storms on top? On would the psi/nuke or whatever only work when everything is out of the vortex

Whats SSBM?

I still dont use hotkeys, only ctrl & 1 and ctrl & 2. Has anyone posted a guide somewhere for all the keyboard controls? Such as hotkeys for nexus chrono boost, switching nexus/command/hatchery. I want to be able to battle whilst still building stuff. I usually find im in a huge battle then when its almost done the opposition has some more units and i have none but have 2000 mineral and 2000 gas :rolleyes:
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SSBM = Supper Smash Brothers Melee

(My Ideal Hotkey (I tend to forget to set everything other than 1,5,6,0)

I hotkey my CC/Nexus/Hatch to 5

I put Queen+Hatch/Rax/Gate on 6
Robo/Factory on 7
Airports on 8
My builder (if Toss or Terran) 9
Tech building on 0
Army 1-4 (If I have a number of units, often its just 1 thought)

For Nexus stuff IIRC your Probes are E, your Boost is C
Gate is [letter in bold]
Zealot
Stalker
sEntry

Cant remember Templars or Dark Templars

All Unit build hotkeys are shown on their build Icons when you select the building that makes them.
The same with Units actions, the hotkeys are shown in the bottom left hand corner.


Another thing to note is you can hotkey multiple buildings together (and buildings and Units) if the Unit/Building selection is varied, then you can tab through the various units/buildings to select them.

An example of this for zerg is Queens and Hatcheries. I hotkey all of my queens and hatches to 6, then when I want to inject more larva
I hit 6r and click on the wireframe icon of one of the hatches, 6r the next hatch, etc.

If I want to build 6 zerglings I hit 6 tab s zzzzzz
 
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DT's hotkey is D and HT's is T.

I've started to put Stalkers, Sentries, HTs and an Observer on different hotkeys. And my whole army on a hotkey as well. It's easier to press # + letter to cast a spell rather than tab to unit + letter to cast one I think. Getting into the habit of pressing shift + 1 when you make a new unit is definitely a good idea, or whatever hotkey your whole army is on.
 
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H2F Scott said:
DT's hotkey is D and HT's is T.

I've started to put Stalkers, Sentries, HTs and an Observer on different hotkeys. And my whole army on a hotkey as well. It's easier to press # + letter to cast a spell rather than tab to unit + letter to cast one I think.
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Especially if when your army is zealots, stalkers, sentries and HTs and then your zealots all die and you hit 1, tab, tab, tab T and nothing happens ;)
 
H2F Scott said:
Stalkers vs Brood Lords you say?

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That happened yesterday on orb's stream, and someone put it to the wombo combo SSBM vid audio. That game was was quite epic, orb used so many forcefields it was ridiculous.
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...certainly a lot of screaming in that video :D some nice moves there from toss

jomiyo said:
Ok, they're apparently brothers who prefer melee... but why do they insist on smashing supper?
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:p
 
Indie said:
never had much of a problem with reapers, yet to see any real harassment done with them other than losing a few probes playing as toss. pretty useless against zerg
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Look on TL.net, Protoss can't get units out in time to stop Reavers if the Terran player isn't a complete idiot, it's a very unbalanced match-up purely because of reaper rush.

Sounds like you play crap Terrans tbh.

Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118214
 
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Manlove is my forte said:
What!!! I've been tabbing units all this time ...

It doesn't work with buildings and unit.
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If you hotkey a group of units, one of the group will be designated the primary caster, unfortunately with MMM+Raven the bloody raven takes priority over stim units so my MM get put on a separate hotkey.
 
just got dropped from a game and can't get back into multiplayer now!
was gonna win too! FFS.
 
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