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kar is their any way of booking a 2v2 with you at some point, would be good to get some tips to improve play considering you seem to be pretty high up the food chain atm.
 
Zurg ruining the game?

The initial rush of zurglings is ridiculous and unstoppable, even if I try and wall off super fast! WTF!
 
Zurg ruining the game?

The initial rush of zurglings is ridiculous and unstoppable, even if I try and wall off super fast! WTF!

Zergling rush imho isnt as powerful as it was in Starcraft. no more 9 Pool speedlings :(

Its insanely easy to stop.

If your having trouble, save a replay and post it on the forum, we'll take a look and tell you how to stop it

In general though. Protoss should be scouting as soon as they put their first pylon down. which will scout a 6-8 pool in time. therefore your reaction should be to gateway ASAP and chronoboost a Zealot out. also get another pylon by your gate. Use probes with your zealot to hold the rush.

As Terran, just wall off, its eaaasy to do it in time, even if you don't have a marine out, so long as your wall is there you can repair untill your marine pops.


What race do you play?
 
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Zurg ruining the game?

The initial rush of zurglings is ridiculous and unstoppable, even if I try and wall off super fast! WTF!

As terran it's fairly easy to wall off quickly against Zerg. Always make sure you scout to see if they are going with a spawnpool and then just make sure you wall off quickly - you may need to use a 2nd scv to get the wall up if they are really quick at getting the zerglings out but most of the time 1 scv is enough to erect the standard 1 barracks/2 supply depots to stop them getting in.

How do promotions work? Do you have to have a certain amount of points etc? or are they just random? I've been sitting 2nd/3rd for weeks now in bronze (yes lowly bronze) and have 900 points or so. 1st place has something like 1500!!
 
did he complain again that nony was a rubbish player? ^^

He didn't say anything except gg 4 times. :p

Last game was actually quite funny though. Nony convinced him he was going 3 gate expand but was actually going void rays. When Nony had 2 VRs out, Idra hadn't even started his lair. Literally the second the void rays started attacking the roaches that were at Nony's rocks on blistering, he gg'd and quit. :D
 
He didn't say anything except gg 4 times. :p

Last game was actually quite funny though. Nony convinced him he was going 3 gate expand but was actually going void rays. When Nony had 2 VRs out, Idra hadn't even started his lair. Literally the second the void rays started attacking the roaches that were at Nony's rocks on blistering, he gg'd and quit. :D

hes sucha cry baby... really starting to dislike him, can he just not accept that hes not as good as some players!

funny to see his rage though \o/
 
hes sucha cry baby... really starting to dislike him, can he just not accept that hes not as good as some players!

funny to see his rage though \o/

Where's the rage or the crying? I'm not an Idra fanboy but it's like chess, he knows he has no way of coming back into the game and gg's. He did the same thing vs a protoss player in the GSL who hid a void ray rush.

or to quote a TL poster

IdrA's prompt surrenders gives evidence to both his game understanding and (I may be imagining this one) his respect for his opponents. As soon as he assesses a decisive advantage for his opponent, he simply assumes that his opponent is competent and will exploit that advantage to its utmost.

The way people bring up his stereotype even when he does nothing to propagate it starts to grate, I guess I read the TL forums too much when people go on about it every time his name is mentioned.
 
Very well putt Matt. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I think he has his moments and he's certainly not backwards about talking down about players he feels inferior. But the BM tag he's got, is sometimes overstated. And the games against Nony were anything but BM.

They just highlighted/exposed the weakness in his game (he is predictable and that can be exploited).
 
Where's the rage or the crying? I'm not an Idra fanboy but it's like chess, he knows he has no way of coming back into the game and gg's. He did the same thing vs a protoss player in the GSL who hid a void ray rush.

or to quote a TL poster



The way people bring up his stereotype even when he does nothing to propagate it starts to grate, I guess I read the TL forums too much when people go on about it every time his name is mentioned.

The early quits are not always warranted, I've watched so many of his games now where he could easily hold off pushes, or he could buy himself some time instead he's just quit.. then after the games he's BMing people about them being inferior.. yet beat him? doesn't add up, at least not to me!

He's always been the same and probably always will be, that's why he's so well known for it, doesn't matter how much people post about him on TL.net, its fact.. he's just very abrupt and bad mannered at times. Especially if you him compare to the other Korean competitors.

He's a good player, don't get me wrong, however some of the things he's come out with since SCII, and even before then, there's been no need for.
The problem with his play is that he is far too predictable (like Kar said), which is something he needs to change in his gameplay, not winge about. Just learn to adapt, all of the other great players can do it! Just don't agree with his attitude is my only gripe to be honest, which i think is a fair comment.

And yes, the games vs Nony he was fine i guess i just like to see him loose as karma for all of his comments over the years! ^^

I still think he's a much better Terran player than he is Zerg.
 
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protoss players should check out Welmu's replay pack posted on teamliquid. He's a 2400 diamond and there's quite a lot to learn from watching his play.
 
protoss players should check out Welmu's replay pack posted on teamliquid. He's a 2400 diamond and there's quite a lot to learn from watching his play.

Thanks for the headsup :)

Some notes about games:
*New PvZ style and it working wonders!
*PvT is hard :/
*MadFrog playing 1base o_O
*WhiteRa being king
*Mothership rush is bad
*Rage in game against Bunny

Should be fun :p
 
I've lost to it (at diamond level). Scouted it, but I didn't react appropriately. I thought some zealots would be fine. They aren't. The SCVS that accompany the rush really bug out the zealot AI.

Best way to counter it is stalkers+ a couple probes to stop it landing. Basically have a couple probes following his cc so it's always underneath so it can't land or at worst, delays its landing. That should buy you enough time to get immortals out, or at least a sizeable stalker count.

It's pretty easy to scout so you know it's coming. Basically if you see an early engineering bay (with your 9/12/13 scout), gear up for it.

I've had it tried on me a few times since, once 1v1 diamond, other times in 2v2s and it's failed miserably. I think one of those games was with Alex? Or Sniffy? Anyway much LOLOLOL once you know how to react.
 
kar is their any way of booking a 2v2 with you at some point, would be good to get some tips to improve play considering you seem to be pretty high up the food chain atm.

Yeah I'll be on tonight, kar.310.

There's a spreadsheet floating around with all our ids on it. But tbh I think my skills have stayed pretty static while a lot of people have improved a lot =]
 
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