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Watched the zvt game. Imo it's easier to hold off those early bunker pushes if you hatch first, because you have more larva and better positioning for spine crawlers (at the least it makes for good practice holding that stuff :P).

14 drone scout, hatch
13 pool
17 gas
16 OL

Transfer most of your drones as soon as the hatch is up, and immediately make 1 spine unless you are really sure there is no pressure coming. From there you need to send your first lings to his ramp, keep them there as long as you can.

If you scout early marine/scv pressure you need to be really quick pulling your drones to surround the marines. If the bunkers get up around your nat you have pretty much lost :(.
 
if you do lose that hatch (and yes i think hatch first is the way to go in ZvT) you can still do something off one base, ladder is not code S afterall ;)
 
Last game is a ZvT. Mockery for being terrible is very welcome :D

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/128913-1v1-terran-zerg-steppes-of-war

I was disappointed to find there's not much to mock you for! Pretty solid play for a Toss player, where are your Terran replays though? ;)

Anyway, for what it's worth, as I've not played properly in about 10 days so my advice is probably out of date already (still amazed at how fast the meta game changes), I have a few comments.
First off, yes, obviously your scouting early on let you down badly. Personally I don't drone scout, but tend to get 4 early lings (or 2 on maps where the xel'naga towers are pointless early game, Steppes being one of them), then have 1 ling popping up and down the ramp until it dies, another waiting at the bottom of the ramp, and the last 2 controlling the xel'naga towers. That, coupled with the realisation that I should never build units until I see something coming, is probably the biggest factor in my improvement lately. Anyway, the lings would have seen 2 rax and you could have responded accordingly.
Secondly, although I'm sure you're already aware, you need to be microing your blings with move commands to make sure they kill marines or you are going to lose. Quite a few times I saw blings hitting marauders, and while I know with your Toss roots your hatred of marauders is ingrained, you can't afford to do that at all.
Finally, my thoughts on mutas. Again, you probably already know this, but you need to be actively harrassing with them from the second they pop, while never losing any! At the same time you can never let them get into a straight up fight with marines until you have a critical mass (and even then only as a last resort), but bringing them in to pick off tanks/medivacs while your ling/bling army is chasing the bio ball off.

Reading that back it's not all that useful or interesting, but it's written now so what the hell, maybe it'll help someone. At the end of the day you were behind from the beginning on a map that is pretty terrible for Zerg, so you did well considering.
 




Cheers for the feedback :). Will start using lings more for scouting. I'm so used to using probes and observers :o, need to remember how cheap zerg units are..

I like the idea of the 14 hatch, but from toss experience I know it doesnt take that much to delay it, which is why I went for pool first. Will try the hatch first though, see what I can make happen :)

General unit micro and mutalisk harass also do seem to need work, will have to start getting into these habits :D

Will post more games as they come. Certainly once terran starts coming up...:p
 
Can someone tell me some good youtube accounts that provide good videos about starcraft? (particularly terran related)

I have the following:
-ahnarisstarcraft
-adebisistarcraft
-huskystarcraft
-hdstarcraft
-day9tv
-artosistv
-forcesc2strategy

thanks ^^
 
That was the second/third FFA I've ever played, mainly play 2v2/3v3. So tried to play completely differently, which backfired.

I didn't really get the chance for an epic battle as sphinx could just wipe straight through my base. If I didn't accidently highlight all my burrowed banelings when his marines were marching through I think I might have overwhelmed him.

Must say, your expansion tactic was interesting. Definately need more OcUK FFA's
 
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hey. a couple of bnet friends of mine are arranging a relatively impromptu friendly tournie this sunday at 7pm, and are still looking for some more players. got maybe 14 or so playing so far including myself and some clan members, and the standard will most mostly be be dia/plat, mabye one or two masters. all matches will be at least bo3, obviously increasing if you progress. these things are usually a good laugh and a good learning experience so i thought i'd post to see if anyone here might be interested?

if you are just drop me a line on bnet; amnesiac - 681 :)
 
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That was the second/third FFA I've ever played, mainly play 2v2/3v3. So tried to play completely differently, which backfired.

I didn't really get the chance for an epic battle as sphinx could just wipe straight through my base. If I didn't accidently highlight all my burrowed banelings when his marines were marching through I think I might have overwhelmed him.

Must say, your expansion tactic was interesting. Definately need more OcUK FFA's

Yeah watching the replay those banes were everywhere I got lucky. It was like moon's banes blast but on a larger scale :D


Walsandrew, amensiac - 681 doesn't work, says it can not find that name. Are you on European server?

EDIT: Yeah your name is not amensiac, its amnesiac ;)
 
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i might play around with the other races in the near future, should i try using the grid hotkey arrangement, as i hear that its universal for all races?

I use the grid system and I find it's way better than the default since you don't have to memorise keys and move your hand around. The only exception is T for attack, and 1 or 2 things like having to press V to reclaim bunkers if you are Terran. Other than that it's great, like you just use Q for most things (SCVs, marines, vikings), W for Marauders and tanks.

And you don't even have to think about what the shortcuts are for upgrades, they are all right there at your fingertips :)
 
Yeah watching the replay those banes were everywhere I got lucky. It was like moon's banes blast but on a larger scale :D


Walsandrew, amensiac - 681 doesn't work, says it can not find that name. Are you on European server?

EDIT: Yeah your name is not amensiac, its amnesiac ;)

well worked out :p always helps to spell your actual profile name right! :D
 
nice one "the Don"

myself and "the Don" - two lowly bronze players - decide on some 2 v 2 - after 5 wins from 5 placements - straight into Platinum league!! haha

Got a nose bleed that I am that far up the leagues!!!:D:D
 
nice one "the Don"

myself and "the Don" - two lowly bronze players - decide on some 2 v 2 - after 5 wins from 5 placements - straight into Platinum league!! haha

Got a nose bleed that I am that far up the leagues!!!:D:D

Diamond league next pal lol
 
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