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1 Gate with Zealots coming out of it trumps 1 rax with marines coming out IF he managed to get it up.

Zealots are so tanky XD

Mules aren't as OP as you believe. Toss's Chrono and Zerg's larva mechanic make up for it. Sure Mules can be great at times for come backs but that's the exact same in PvT where you lose all your army but he barely survives then you warp-in X amount of Zealots and rickroll.
 
moved up to third in my league ( still a silver scrub) but I feel playing more over the last few days has pay'd off , now beating about half the gold players I come up against and even a few platinum people :)
been holding off more early aggression than I have been able to before so hopefully I can now get to late game more often where I like to play :)
 
1 Gate with Zealots coming out of it trumps 1 rax with marines coming out IF he managed to get it up.

Zealots are so tanky XD

Mules aren't as OP as you believe. Toss's Chrono and Zerg's larva mechanic make up for it. Sure Mules can be great at times for come backs but that's the exact same in PvT where you lose all your army but he barely survives then you warp-in X amount of Zealots and rickroll.

Whilst Zerg have to be prepared for battle ie scout the army coming, move armies into position, inject for the inevitable wastage and then finally move in to get slaughtered.








And then spew out lings and roaches like no tomorrow. :D
 
Hey do many people here play team games? I'm plat 1v1 at toss and sometimes play them with friends while on skype but they are all bronze (except 1 who is gold which is better... we're diamond standard 2v2) and its really frustrating sometimes (especially with the bronzies :-/). I like to play a scouting based reactive style (i.e. not all ins all the time like some people do unless the opponent is really badly defended). Would be nice to play with someone around my ability?
 
I do like team games, but they are a bit of a mess. The maps are bad, it's extremely biased towards Protoss and Terran since almost all of the maps promote one or two base all ins, both of which Zerg generally suck at doing and surviving.

I think if you want to play with friends, try some of the custom games and find your fun that way.
 
Haha it's funny cos me and my friend actually was talking about MaximusBlack last night when I said it was weird there were no pro Black SC2 gamers.

There is Debo too, the Terran player. His stream is pretty funny D:

Edit: I wouldn't call him pro though. Although he is masters, so not terrible.
 
Oh sheet. The teamliquid movie is out on the 22nd June!

I can't wait for the movie, it's going to show some interesting stuff that most people don't know about e-sports and it's inner workings.

I personally would have rather it been focused on a different team than Liquid as I feel they're just carried by Hero and now Taeja. The other members are good but they don't stand anywhere near the level of Koreans like other foreign teams do like Empire,Fnatic(Although they rely on Koreans),Quantic and Mousesports(Although they'll take a huge hit now they've lost Thorzain).

I'll watch your replay in a sec Rise.
 
Ok....


You scouted the close by ground position on Shakuras. They can't ever spawn there.

3:00'ish - You went in and saw the pool had only just started yet you still went cannon before nexus. - It delays your Nexus for no reason and so did the pylon. If you go for the cannon rush, as soon as you see that many drones pulled just cancel the pylon and go home. It's not going to work and a better alternative is to pylon block the hatchery.

4:07 - You went for a cannon a full minute after you'd lost your probe. A high likeliness of just 2 lings stopping you, it was pointless. It also delayed your Gateway which could have been put up as soon as you sent the worker across the map.

5:44 - Pay more attention to when your buildings finish. If you're going to maynard then do it just before the Nexus finishes. Also you're floating a lot of chrono (not sure if there's a plan for that yet)

I can also tell you're using the mouse to scroll between places. Use the minimap or camera hotkeys.

If you chrono a nexus as you start a worker, queue up a second. That way the chrono won't be wasted and it's not that bad for your macro.

I know you said the robo was late and it definitely was. Obviously if you go stargate from FFE then you won't have a robo until the midgame but you still played blindly which is always bad. He played SUPER greedy. Expanding to a third,fourth and fifth at the 9min mark with NO units.

12:25 - He's revealed the mutas, he's poking in and out and you have all your stalkers in your base trying to stop the harass. Place down cannons. At this point if you'd have 1A'd and obviously brought a warp prism or built a proxy pylon you'd have probably won. There was no way he could attack your army head on.

It's also popular to get +3 weapons before you even think about +Armor, that doesn't mean you should though.

I've been in this problem before, it feels impossible to go and take a third against Zerg and that's quite true but what you should do is place down a Nexus and immediately start to place cannons around it; 3/4 is the right number.

14:00'ish - You move out with 12 stalkers still at home. Cannons are better than keeping a lot of your army at home (Stalkers are the right decision against terran drops though)
Also if you pop guardin shield from a sentry it negates the Mutalisk's attack bounce.

Also if you see Mutas it's highly likely he'll be going for Muta/Ling composition as Muta/Roach isn't that popular these days. If you'd have gotten your third at a reasonable time (seeing as you didn't take sny significant damage at any point) then you should place down a templar archives as storm will basically wipe all the lings it hits and Mutas will just melt.

Not sure about the Immortal at the end. Immortals are weak to Lings and obviously can't shoot at Mutas XD

It just finished. IMO it was a case of bad scouting and he just played really greedy and wasn't punished for it.

PvZ is much like TvP. If you let them do whatever they want more than half the time you'll be in a terrible position.


--- Again i've not been to bed since yesterday as I've been playing too much D3 and Sc2. If you don't understand anything then let me know.
 
I have 7950's in Xfire and am getting bad texture, unit and HUD flickering. What AMD drivers are best for this do you find. Doing my head in now because I am enjoying it when it isn't strobing at me!!! Using 12.4's again now because the 12.5 and 12.6 were even worse than these. Any help appreciated.
 
If its unique to sc2 it'd prolly be better you post on the tech support part of Teamliquids website. They'd have more experience there.
 
Thanks kamwah :)
I that the immortal was a mistake dont know why I made that
Will pop down cannons next time
I very often feel bad about taking a third against zerg but I will try and pop down those cannons
I think I was too careless after killing the two basses, also never seen a zerg expand so crazily before :P
 
I just faced a zvt where he clumped up everything he had almost, 8 vikings, 8 medivacs, 11 tanks and 25 marines into a nice choke point that was covered by 3 fungal spreads. All dead xD
 
I just faced a zvt where he clumped up everything he had almost, 8 vikings, 8 medivacs, 11 tanks and 25 marines into a nice choke point that was covered by 3 fungal spreads. All dead xD

8 medivacs for 25marines? Fail.

XD

The GSTL finished a while ago, Zerg is so damn OP after that queen upgrade. Terrans are 2-11 in the GSTL and that's not counting mirror matchups.
 
Does Blizzard do anything to people who deliberately suicide at the start of games? I'm just getting crushed in all my games because I'm just way out of my league, its no fun at all and I'm just not enjoying it. I know you often get people from the top leagues suiciding themselves down the ladder to get some easy wins, and nothing actually comes of that, does it?
 
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