Out of the game since 2011; help with adding a Gfx card to this system.

[BauerCTU]

Good morning,

I have not looked into PC gaming since about 2011 when I built a PC for battlefield 3, adult life getting in the way and all that so I would like some help as I literally have no idea what I am looking at now. My last look at graphics cards, cross fire and SLI bridges where all the rage.

I have a PS5 console and have no desire to buy an Xbox but I am interested in game pass on the PC to play some exclusives and also going back and playing some of my older fav PC games on steam.

In work we have this great system where I buy my PC for pennies & I think my PC is fairly decent except the graphics card is of no use for gaming.

So what are my options for a graphics card & I assume a new power supply given the following spec/s. I have absolutely no issue in buying a used Gfx card from a previous generation.

Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700 CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz
RAM : 32Gb DDR4 memory
Memory : Western Digital PC SN720 NVMe SSD 256GB SN720 SDAPNTW-256G
Current Gfx : Nvidia Quadro P400

Its Running windows 11 & I will have 2 x Monitors which are IIyama BlackHawk G-MASTER G2740QSU 1440p.

Its all boxed in this https://www.fujitsu.com/hk/products/computing/pc/ap/desktops/esprimo-p558/ unit so I don't really know much about the motherboard and power supply.

Budget wise I don't want to be spending £1000's & I would'nt mind being able to game at 1440p60 if possible.

Any help will be appreciated.

 

[Captain_Bosh]

Googling the ESPRIMO P558 PSU it looks like its a 280W which is pretty low spec, and might be a non ATX form factor PSU being a pre built so you will want to check dimensions when considering upgrading it.

So your options are;
buying a GPU which can run on a 280W PSU which will probably not be much of an upgrade tbh.
or
Find a GPU that meets your needs a buy a PSU that meets its requirements.

 

[Captain_Bosh]

600W PSU and an RTX 3050 or 3060 would probably be OK for what you after.

 

[BauerCTU]

Thanks for the help, will keep an eye on some market sales or ebay for 3060Ti (might give me a nice bit of headroom) and a nice 600W PSU. Should come out well under £500. The dimensions of the case are small but I think I have an old gaming PC case somewhere in the loft I could cannibalise in the mean time.

 

[Captain_Bosh]

Yeah I agree probably easier to build in another case. Worth a look in the OCUK clearance section too if you fancy building in a nice new case too. They always have good offers on B grade cases starting around the £23 mark.

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[TheRealDeal]

I would be looking more at the 6700xt over a 3050/3060.

 

[SpudMaster]

Looking at the specs of your PC. It uses a proprietary motherboard so you won't be able to just buy a larger PSU. You'll need to replace the motherboard also. Note for future, don't buy prebuilds from large companies like Fujitsu, Dell, HP etc.
Also something like 6700XT or 6800XT depending on budget would be my choice over a 3060. Though at this point I'd probably be considering a full new system in all honesty.

 

[BauerCTU]

Looking at the specs of your PC. It uses a proprietary motherboard so you won't be able to just buy a larger PSU. You'll need to replace the motherboard also. Note for future, don't buy prebuilds from large companies like Fujitsu, Dell, HP etc.
Also something like 6700XT or 6800XT depending on budget would be my choice over a 3060. Though at this point I'd probably be considering a full new system in all honesty.

As I said in my original post I have bought my work PC as that's been upgraded so this is out of my control, its what the company uses. I only paid £35 for it all with monitors (tax reasons) so I think its a decent buy & id like to make something of it.

I don't game enough to warrant a full new system nor do I want to spend the cash.

 

[SpudMaster]

As I said in my original post I have bought my work PC as that's been upgraded so this is out of my control, its what the company uses. I only paid £35 for it all with monitors (tax reasons) so I think its a decent buy & id like to make something of it.

I don't game enough to warrant a full new system nor do I want to spend the cash.

Can't complain for £35 then

Are you able to upgrade the motherboard? Your current board according to the specs in the link you provided won't accept a standard ATX psu. I was just thinking by the time you've changed the MB, case and added a GPU your well one the way to a new system.

 

[BauerCTU]

Can't complain for £35 then

Are you able to upgrade the motherboard? Your current board according to the specs in the link you provided won't accept a standard ATX psu. I was just thinking by the time you've changed the MB, case and added a GPU your well one the way to a new system.

Good point however I am trying to stay away form just adding one extra component as I will spiral & end up building a new system and doing it to a higher spec, then the wife will not be happy.

 

[Tetras]

Does the PSU have a 6 or 8 pin connector available? The PSUs might be limited, but they are usually specified for their rated power (i.e. if they say 300 watt, they can actually supply 300 watt, unlike bargain basement PSUs).

Ideally, if you're going to play @ 1440p, I'd want at least a RX 6600 and their power usage is fairly modest (~100-130 watt), but realistically you might be limited to slot power and something like a 1650. A 1650 can play a lot of games and will be fine for old Steam games, but Starfield at 1440p? Um, good luck!

9th gen Fujitsu PCs are almost certainly proprietary and not upgradeable by the way, as said above. Adapters for the board do exist, but if they work, I don't know.

 

[pepp77]

When I had my RX6600 my plug monitor showed my PC never pulling 200W from the wall so would be an option if there is an 8 pin connector available.

 

[kieran_read]

Honestly at this time of the year none.

This is where companies start increasing the prices so they can pretend we're getting a discount on Black Friday i'd wait until then so you don't over pay.

Unless you go 2nd hand because you can get some absolutly stunning deals

 

[BauerCTU]

Thanks for all the help.

I thhnk I will keep some of the components and go with upgrading the bits I need (MoBo, PSU, Case) via the second hand market. Looks like there are plenty of bargains to be had I can do everything I need for well under £500.

 

[Tetras]

I thhnk I will keep some of the components and go with upgrading the bits I need (MoBo, PSU, Case) via the second hand market. Looks like there are plenty of bargains to be had I can do everything I need for well under £500.

Be careful with that, it would be very easy to end up way overpaying * and you haven't got a bargain PC anymore. I guess if you're going to keep them for the long-term it is not so bad (since PSUs and cases can last for years).

* A lot of the used 115v2 boards are potentially not compatible out of the box with 9th gen (you could ask if the BIOS was updated) and from what I've seen, B365 and Z390 boards aren't cheap.

If it was me, I'd just get something low power like the RX 6600 or a 1660 (if the PCIE connector exists), or worst case: a slot powered 1650, since you'd turn the PC into something reasonable for gaming for a modest cost.

 

[HangTime]

I agree, I think you'll end up chasing your tail with these upgrades of PSU, Mobo etc and end up at a point where you may as well have just bought a whole new PC and kept this one for another purpose (or sold it).

My son has a RX6600 and it works perfectly fine at 1440p. I'd still be a bit worried about running one on a 280W PSU though. AMD say you need at least 450W, also you need to check if it has an 8pin connector or not, a work PC might not come with that (can get adapters fairly cheap)

Finally keep in mind a 256GB drive will get full pretty quickly, games these days can be over 100GB. Adding another drive wlll be cheap however.

 

[Tetras]

My son has a RX6600 and it works perfectly fine at 1440p. I'd still be a bit worried about running one on a 280W PSU though. AMD say you need at least 450W, also you need to check if it has an 8pin connector or not, a work PC might not come with that (can get adapters fairly cheap)

If the OP is willing to replace everything anyway, I guess it doesn't matter? E.g. try the card and if it doesn't work then just carry it forward.

Only negative to this choice would be if the OP would have preferred a higher power draw card (e.g. 6800 XT) and only went with the 6600 hoping it would work.

 

[BauerCTU]

Good morning guys, sorry I was meant to respond to this but life has been getting in the way.

After some consideration and the wife deciding on having new carpets fitted my master plan has come unstuck.

I did get the PC home & I like the idea of keeping this budget way down or just knocking it on the head and just using the machine for my photography processing if the gaming side wont work.

So I think Tetras idea of a 6600/XT suits down to the ground (budget wise) I suppose it depends on if I can fit a sufficient powered PSU to the motherboard.

I have managed to find an image of the motherboard; given the specs/image is this possible (6600XT idea?), if so what PSU would suit this given the configuation?

 

[Apex]

What on earth is that?

 

[Tetras]

So I think Tetras idea of a 6600/XT suits down to the ground (budget wise) I suppose it depends on if I can fit a sufficient powered PSU to the motherboard.

If you're not changing the PSU: 6600, not 6600 XT. The 6600 XT uses significantly more power.

I have managed to find an image of the motherboard; given the specs/image is this possible (6600XT idea?), if so what PSU would suit this given the configuation?

The model number appears to be D3602-A12, but I can't tell if that's a 2, D3602? You have two connectors which resemble a 4 pin ATX 12v (usually comes in 4+4 EPS12v now) and one connector which resembles a 20 pin motherboard connector (usually comes as a 24 pin with detachable 4 pin).

Getting these connections on a PSU is not hard, but the problem is, I have no idea if Fujitsu have used a standard pinout and if they didn't, it might fry your motherboard. If you can confirm the model number, perhaps we can find a datasheet or some other confirmation.