Over boarding over boarded ceiling

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why someone would overboard artex, just to re-artex... :S
 
It took just over a week for us to get asbestos results back before which is time we don't have unfortunately, so I think I'm just going to assume the layer underneath does contain it and dispose of it at the tip (they accept asbestos double bagged etc). Rest of it will go in a normal skip. Hopefully with part-access from above we'll be able to get most down as full boards, or near enough to.
 
Since it's not lath and plaster it will be less messy to take both down. However any plasterer worth their salt won't need to scrape down and flatten, you skim it over the artex. I'm not a plasterer and that's what have done in the past with good results.

You will need to prep the ceiling with a strong mix of pva, get another plasterer in to have a mother look. You don't need to take it down if it's not needed.
 
Definitely do the job properly. Take it all down and put up a single layer of boards. Ok, you will get some mess but be prepared first. You will be so glad you did a first class job rather than a 'botch' one!
 
Rip both layers down and board it again. You will be glad you did like said above.
That would be a lot of weight up there.
It will be a better job in the end also. Good luck. :)
 
Thanks folks. Skip booked. Extra hands booked. Just not looking forward to the dust.

The room we're doing it in is at the front of the house but the window only has a top opening, the large glass pane which makes up most of the window can't be opened. Do you think it would be worth popping to a local glass shop to get them to remove the pane (and replace next week) so we can just pass rubble buckets straight down to the street (and exit ourselves there, rather than traipsing through the house)?

If so, how much should I expect to pay for that?
 
Get on YouTube and look up how to remove, no need to make things more expensive when you can do It yourself, it's literally a 5min job.
 
Hmm yeah. Means I could put it back in overnight as well. I assume it's going to be as "simple" as this:


And I assume it can't fall out if I'm only removing the internal beading?
 
I may be better to take it down a layer at a time also. The top one with the insulation on it will be the worst obviously but the bottom layer should not be that dusty.
If they have skrimmed (fibre tape/cloth) the ceiling to wall make sure you cut round the perimeter or it could damage the wall. Not to worry if you're blending it in after though.
 
Yeah I think we'll definitely do that Simps. We're also planning on removing the old crumbling lime plaster from one wall and the lime/lathe from another too so we'll also be doing that first.
 
sorry to necro an old thread (this one was fairly high on google!), but is overboarding generally frowned upon? I've had a builder round whos suggesting it, but as far as I'm aware the existing surface is relatively neat and could just be reskimmed?

I suppose one advantage is it adds a (minute) amount of insulation? would only be losing circa 9.5mm of plasterboard off the ceiling height, and I'll also be having holes for existing lights and extractor ducts to be covered up etc (it's in a kitchen).

My current ceiling only has one level of plasterboard. He also stated the advantage of it therefore being fire rated to the same degree as the RSJ? (as two levels of normal plasterboard is == to one level fire rated board)
 
Its just cheaper and less messy. I did mine myself, ripped it all down and re-boarded with 9mm tapered board then tape and filled the joints. Dead easy and first time i did it its faultless.
 
As someone who has just removed ceilings from my entire 1970 house... Don't listen to messy etc. It's some dust... And obviously plasterboard.

If you get the plasterboard off in big sheets less work, but depends how it comes down. I like just pulling down with my hands.

Ideally insulation should just sit between the joists and won't all tumble down. A few small bits came down for me but majority is fine (just fibreglass wool).
 
How old is the property? If its laths and plaster then it's very dusty and messy if just plasterboard then not as messy by a long way.
 
Mines 60s build, its not lathe and plaster just standard plasterboard affair. I'm surprised he suggested it tbh? I suppose there are fairly large holes in the ceiling for lights etc, but surely skimming is easier?
 
Skiming over patches will always leave a mark over time (plaster sagging in weak spots), so over boarding makes skimming easier.

Personally after overboarding three rooms and giving them time to settle (3years) I wish I had pulled them down and been able to level the boards properly as there are areas that have dropped
 
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