Parent and Child spaces

Maybe there should be a scheme similar to Motability, but for Parents with Children. They could trade their Child benefits etc for a 'special' vehicle - one with sliding rear doors for example.

HAHAHAHAH Trade benefits for something to help their children.....nice idea but I dont think that would happen for the token chav mother and money spinning children :p
 
Clearly i am, please enlighten me as to why he should park nearer to somewhere given that i was there first?

If he had an issue with me parking there, he should have taken it up with the store and let them resolve the matter with me. It is nothing to do with him, the spaces have no status in any fashion.

Iit seems like you think you have every 'right', moral and other, to park in this space despite not qualifying for it's clearly designated use, so why would anyone think you would take any notice of the store staff? I'd say he did the right thing, and clearly by his actions you then parked elsewhere.. from a consideration and courtesy standpoint, You == ***** tbh..

[TW]Fox;15335726 said:
I know you like to think the spaces are there purely out of the goodness of the supermarkets hearts, the real reason they are there is one of marketing, not genuine concern for the wellbeing of your children.

It's part of the supermarkets attempts to project a family friendly image - they come across as a really rather lovely firm who are there to make life easier for you, this is a far more effective image than the truth, being that they are a large public limited company there for one reason only - to maximise shareholder value.

That, and not care for you and your lovely kids, is why they squashed up all the other spaces and turned half the carparket over to women in badly parked people carriers.

Just because they are a marketing mechanism does not automatically make them 'bad' and worthy of abuse though..

Cars are getting bigger, spaces aren't, Child safety requirements dictate larger seats with require more access, society is tending towards more safety in general, It's simple logic to see that offering Child spaces that offer better access, and safer passage to the Store will be favourable as a marketing tool as it is mirroring changes in society..

The bottom line is, these are designated spaces, to abuse them is exactly that, abuse, whether legal or not, whether you fail to see their usefulness or not..

What if they suddenly expanded Motorcycle parking because Motorcycles where more popular, with covered parking, closer to the entrance.. Would you park your car in them?
 
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[TW]Fox;15336261 said:
So increase the size of spaces

Why do you play all dumb in these matters?

I wonder why they don't just increase all parking bay sizes?

hmm. let me think...

:)
 
[TW]Fox;15336370 said:
Because it would reduce the total number of parking spaces and give no real net marketing benefit.

Replacing half the spaces with sprogwagon parking, however.. :)

Oh please stop with the histrionics, it's hardly half the spaces. Our supermarket has 10 "sprogwagon" spaces.

Perhaps supermarkets should do the same as some on the continent: have underground parking beneath the store itself - they could have the parent with child and disabled spaces down there and jez could still park right by the entrance on the ground level. :D
 
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Oh please stop with the histrionics, it's hardly half the spaces. Our supermarket has 10 "sprogwagon" spaces.

Sainsburys Plymouth has 3 double space rows of parent and child, so whats that, 20 per row so 60. Then the entire front of store, including cashpoint area, is P&C. A further 10?

70 spaces.

70!!!
 
[TW]Fox;15336432 said:
Sainsburys Plymouth has 3 double space rows of parent and child, so whats that, 20 per row so 60. Then the entire front of store, including cashpoint area, is P&C. A further 10?

70 spaces.

70!!!

Wow, that's a lot (and even I agree probably excessive), but I'm sure it's still well south of "half the spaces".
 
Go to Costco, they have proper spaces, with double lines inbetween them so every space has plenty of room to get in/out.

Their carpark is also 3x the size of most supermarkets so it is never full.

Bulk buy everything there at cheaper prices, then just get bits and bobs from the supermarket when you need them in the work vehicle. Job done ;)

The Wigan Tesco is terrible, you cant park near to the door as its rammed, you cant park on the other side of the car park as people use it to park and then walk into town from there, rather than pay to park in town. Cant win, so I tend to avoid shopping on weekends and go later on in the evening if I have to.
 
[TW]Fox;15336432 said:
Sainsburys Plymouth has 3 double space rows of parent and child, so whats that, 20 per row so 60. Then the entire front of store, including cashpoint area, is P&C. A further 10?

70 spaces.

70!!!
I can't believe quite how sad this is, but you might appreciate the stats :p

http://plymouth.inuklocal.co.uk/Supermarkets/Sainsburys-Marsh-Mills-00613

Sainsbury's - Marsh Mills

564 parking spaces
26 disabled parking spaces
33 parent and child parking spaces
38 checkouts
3 ATM machine(s)

:p

(Assuming you mean this one of course!)
 
[TW]Fox;15336514 said:
Well there goes my counting skills :D
It's ok, I think I just lost a serious wedge of self-respect even going to the bother of finding those stats :(
 
I would never park anywhere near a parent and child parking space, children are terrible if it comes to cars, I always see my left opposite neighbors kit ram the door of their Renault espace into whatever is next to them :(. I always avoid parking next to them. Or anyone else with children I see for that matter.
 
Oh Oh, who opened the can of worms :P

These threads always cause heated reviews, me being a parent obviously supports the P+C scheme, however............

People with kids should be made to park at the back of the car park so there is more chance of hitting them before they get into the shop, Really boils my **** when they get in the shop quickly & you don't even get a chance for a side swipe. :(

This is possibly the ONLY answer to stop abuse of them, and again, i'm all for that, i don't mind walking to the supermarket from the back of the car park, i do it when i visit without my child anyway, that way, there's less chance of my car being damaged.

However, as mentioned earlier in thread, there is the safety issue, how many people have been involved in / know of someone who has had a car park 'ding', they are possibly one of the most common causes of accidents, backed up here. Now how easily could it be a child that is hit, after all, other cars are more likely to be stationary whilst a child is more likely to be mobile, especailly if they are a teeny tearaway who's parents are more interested in lighting a fag than looking after their child

[TW]Fox;15335481 said:
Remember guys, if you have kids you are a more important person than everyone else :)

Award for the biggest troll in thread goes to ;)

Well obviously, we are providing the next generation of lazy kids and state scroungers. ;)

followed by an excellent come back.

Do you never intent to procreate Fox? We'll see your opinion when you do have children.

To be completely honest, i couldn't care less anymore, it's a given that there are a lot of selfish people in the world (proven in this thread alone), it's never going to go away, i'm not going to bother wasting my life trying to put them in their place, they will eventually get their comeuppance, at least i can live knowing that i'm not an arrogant selfish waste of space :)
 
Yes, because we all know that all children are badly behaved . My son is an angel when we go shopping, he's quiet, doesn't get in the way and if he wants something he can't have we say this magic word a lot of parents seem to have not heard about, it's called "no". What you hate isn't children, but bad parenting.
Even harmless stuff like kids handing my stuff off the belt to scan through.

Or babies screaming in their prams, which no one can help.
Worst is when the parent completely stops to deal with the screaming baby holding the whole queue up.

It's got nothing to do with bad behaviour half the time, just annoying kids.
 
Can I just come back to the point I make every time one of these threads is started.

Who here believes their car will be SAFER from dings and knocks in P&C spaces?

Or is it just being lazy as they are closer to the store?

The 2nd point I understand and accept. The first, I think is a huge miss-conception
 
Can I just come back to the point I make every time one of these threads is started.

Who here believes their car will be SAFER from dings and knocks in P&C spaces?

Or is it just being lazy as they are closer to the store?

The 2nd point I understand and accept. The first, I think is a huge miss-conception


Since P&C 'superior' Spaces are designed to allow doors to be opened wide without coming into contact with the vehicle next to them to allow your high priority sprogs of massive importance to be aired to the general lower classes, in contrast to the the inferior ***** scum normal spaces which don't offer this superior feature, coupled with the "made up off the top of my head(c)" fact that dings are largely due from car door to neighbouring car panel contact, I'd say yes, parking in a larger and clearly more superior space will lead to less dings..


;)
 
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Its bloody obvious really that the spaces serve two purposes. Mothers who are trying to get a small child out of a car seat and into a pram want to do so in a safe environment. This is aided by more space and thus helps prevents dints on other cars. However the prevention of dints is probably a by product of this.

Problem is, they usually happen to be near the store entrance and fact is they are then usually taken up by lazy sods who can't be bothered to walk an extra 20m. It also then takes further abuse from those parents who pull up and jump out of the car with their teenage kids in tow. As a result 2 sets of people, parents and non-parents get riled for different reasons.

But honestly, some of the arguments put forth by some people so far in this thread just shows total ignorance tbh.
 
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