Parking charge rant

MadMan-JaMeS said:
Its crazy how many people think you can just ignore them.

In regards to the OP. You should have not paid at all, only contested it. Once it gets to POPLA, you'll likely find the Operator won't offer no evidence and it'll be cancelled. Then you'll have to spend ages trying to get your refund.

I think if a company doesn't allow a cancellation and it gets to POPLA and they offer no contest they should be fined for wasting time. Its so stupid, and such a waste of time, stress and energy.
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It used to be legit. I have a stack of them pre-2012.
 
People love to threaten "debt collectors".

I recently had a plumber threaten them for some work (partially paid for, because they didn't finish everything) which was done at my house, but contracted and paid for by someone else from a different address. He seems to think he can simply point them at my address and get money from me lol
 
dLockers said:
The advice to ignore died a death in 2012. It is simply bad advice now.


If they are valid you will go to court and you will lose.


To be clear - THE ADVICE TO IGNORE DIED IN 2012 (or thereabouts)!
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Uther said:
You can't ignore them now, you have to deal with it.
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Incorrect. The worst they can do, from failing to deal with the ticket or respond to letters, is take you to court, which 95pc of the time they won't do because the chance of them actually winning is slim and the cost of doing so is prohibitive.
 
Django x2 said:
Incorrect. The worst they can do, from failing to deal with the ticket or respond to letters, is take you to court, which 95pc of the time they won't do because the chance of them actually winning is slim and the cost of doing so is prohibitive.
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Wrong. Lube up, n00b
 
Django x2 said:
Incorrect. The worst they can do, from failing to deal with the ticket or respond to letters, is take you to court, which 95pc of the time they won't do because the chance of them actually winning is slim and the cost of doing so is prohibitive.
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Yep, whilst ignoring isn't what I'd recommend to everyone. It's what I would do. If they want to talk to me, they can do it in front of a judge. Won't be getting my attention until then.

dLockers said:
Wrong. Lube up, n00b
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Problem is you don't actually know the process. Parking companies rely on this ignorance. 95% of the time they do nothing.

As soon as the judge is then shown that ParkingEye have failed to satisfy:

13.1 The driver must have the chance to consider the Terms and Conditions before entering into the ‘parking contract’ with you. If, having had that opportunity, the driver decides not to park but chooses to leave the car park, you must provide them with a reasonable consideration period to leave, before the driver can be bound by your parking contract.
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Normally this period is 10 minutes grace.

You'd be quids in by claiming damages. I'd claim incorrect retrieval of information from the DVLA and therefore a GDPR breach. Damages are normally £500 per incident.

I've only had one case where a parking company actually filed a court claim. Once I had filed my defence and it was obvious I was actually gonna show up in court, they immediately discontinued. They went to all the effort only to drop out literally at the last second. I'm guessing a lawyer finally read their attempted scam.
 
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dLockers said:
Wrong. Lube up, n00b
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Nope. Plenty of information online literally from this year saying this is exactly how you can deal with them. Oh, and two tickets in the last 24 months, completely ignored and not a jot of paperwork in the last 6 months for either. If you paid, you lost.
 
Django x2 said:
Nope. Plenty of information online literally from this year saying this is exactly how you can deal with them. Oh, and two tickets in the last 24 months, completely ignored and not a jot of paperwork in the last 6 months for either. If you paid, you lost.
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I didn't pay, I let it to to court and had a valid reason as to why it was unjust. The advice that 95% doesn't go to court is nonesense. Stop getting your advice from Facebook.
 
dLockers said:
I didn't pay, I let it to to court and had a valid reason as to why it was unjust. The advice that 95% doesn't go to court is nonesense. Stop getting your advice from Facebook.
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Nope it is not nonsense.

Until 2 years ago the numbers could be worked out. Some companies take no one to court.

Unfortunately the website providing the info stopped being maintained.
 
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I ignored for close to two years and they continued to chase. Eventually after their lawyers got in touch I wrote back and told them to stop harassing us, and if they don't we'll see them in court. They continued and popla appeal reopened as we'd changed address. Went through popla, won and that was the end of it. Two years of stress I didn't need though.
 
muon said:
Nope it is not nonsense.

Until 2 years ago the numbers could be worked out. Some companies take no one to court.

Unfortunately the website providing the info stopped being maintained.
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:cry:
 
Given the backlog of courts atm i wondering if any threats of court ever materialise.

I'm pretty sure i had 2x charges post 2012 that i ignored and nothing happened.
Though i wouldn't recommend it, or do it now.

Had a work's van get a ticket which my employer paid then took another tenner on top for admin fees. My employer got a letter inviting them to court with me 6 months later, i promptly received my wages back. So daft.
 
dLockers said:
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Nice contribution.

How are you coming with your estimate if how many people are taken to court for reference?

If you want to learn a bit about the subject feel free to join

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/parking-tickets-fines-parking

instead of making stuff up. Up until the bmpa website going down, numbers were very well known.

Even now you can get an idea of the number of PoFA requests against the DVLA (millions per year), there are estimated percentages of how many people pay and then you can see if the CCBC is being flooded with parking charge cases (numbering hundreds of thousands if not millions, which it isn't).

https://www.racfoundation.org/media-centre/private-parking-firms-issuing-12000-tickets-a-day
 
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dLockers said:
I didn't pay, I let it to to court and had a valid reason as to why it was unjust. The advice that 95% doesn't go to court is nonesense. Stop getting your advice from Facebook.
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Yay, a three year old entered the argument. How about, and I'm going out on a limb here, you use Google to find search and you'll find plenty of free advice from actual legal firms about this exact topic. Whilst they all say, it's a route you risk to take, that all state it's perfectly acceptable to do so.
 
If it's clear cut maybe. But if it's a bit sketchy like this one their own lawyers will likely say don't bother, because it's a waste of time.
 
Nasher said:
If it's clear cut maybe. But if it's a bit sketchy like this one their own lawyers will likely say don't bother, because it's a waste of time.
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They're paid per claim so they'll always hedge their bets that folk will ignore and get a juicy CCJ
 
Well you could always name a friend in a obscure country as the driver, then they will have to chase them instead. They will give up then lol
 
Nasher said:
Well you could always name a friend in a obscure country as the driver, then they will have to chase them instead. They will give up then lol
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That also doesn't work anymore. If you don't name the driver then the registered keeper can be held liable.
 
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