parking ticket - not sure if it's unfair, need some advice

wesley · 26 Jul 2009 at 15:29

hi guys

went out with friends in manchester last night, parked my car at Queen Street Park. there was only 1 space left so i parked there.

i did noticed there was a disabled sign but no disabled bay yellow marking on the ground. we debated it would be ok as the NEXT bay has disabled bay marking on the ground. We thought this sign post is for the next bay.

got back to my car at about 4am, got the PCN on my window.

went back there this morning to drop my friend off in this area and went to the car park. took a photo.

http://img529.imageshack.us/i/queenstreet.jpg/

pls note, my car is not in the picture. the right car (fiat punto?) that was the bay i parked my car last night. you can see there is no disabled parking bay on the ground.

i thought all disabled bays must have marking on the ground?

cheers

Perywinkle · 26 Jul 2009 at 15:38

I think i'd be disputing that one.

stokecity_m · 26 Jul 2009 at 15:39

yellow lines?

if so that means disabled bay.

Morba · 26 Jul 2009 at 15:39

found this : http://www.lawanswers.co.uk/questio...rding-this-which-will-mean-i-avoid-a-penalty/

seems to agree with you, but that is a bit old.

Dappy · 26 Jul 2009 at 16:06

Looks like the bays have recently been repainted without the disabled markings for that particular bay, if you look at Google Streetview images taken probably at some point last year, the old bays had white disabled markings.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=queen+street,+manchester&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=23.509726,67.631836&ie=UTF8&ll=53.479595,-2.247514&spn=0.000719,0.002064&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=53.479574,-2.247371&panoid=2iT-fqPMxJw9OUVOzHc0RA&cbp=12,15.62,,0,25.88

wesley · 26 Jul 2009 at 16:08

wow, that's funny cos there is no disabled sign in front of the black car in google streetview

Morba · 26 Jul 2009 at 16:15

whats funny about it? its a new sign and new yellow line?
google isnt that up to date really

mjt · 26 Jul 2009 at 17:09

i'd say that's disabled parking, as there's a sign in front of it and the bays either side are disabled parking.

contest it if you want, but i don't think you'll win

Morba · 26 Jul 2009 at 17:16

mjt said:
i'd say that's disabled parking, as there's a sign in front of it and the bays either side are disabled parking.

contest it if you want, but i don't think you'll win

how do you know the space on the right is a disabled one?

Deleted User 234324 · 26 Jul 2009 at 17:30

There is a disabled sign on that bay, but with no disabled markings on the road for that bay you can dispute it, by law there must be a sign post and adequate markings on the road for a disabled bay.

Tute · 26 Jul 2009 at 17:57

Seems there must be a marking in the bay as well, so i'd go back there when it's empty and take a photo of the bay so that it's clear there's no marking.

Then tell the council to shove it.

clv101 · 26 Jul 2009 at 18:02

mjt said:
i'd say that's disabled parking, as there's a sign in front of it and the bays either side are disabled parking.

For sure, it's quite clearly disabled parking. I don't quite understand how anyone could fail understand what that sign on the railing means. :confused:

I'd never park there unless I wanted a fine.

Morba · 26 Jul 2009 at 18:05

clv101 said:
For sure, it's quite clearly disabled parking. I don't quite understand how anyone could fail understand what that sign on the railing means. I'd never park there unless I wanted a fine.

No, its quite clearly going to be a disabled space but currently is not.

wesley · 26 Jul 2009 at 18:58

i am 100% there is NO disabled marking on the ground, i double checked when i parked my car.

wesley · 26 Jul 2009 at 19:00

MadMossy said:
by law there must be a sign post and adequate markings on the road for a disabled bay.

where can i find this from net so i can forward it to manchester council

thanks

mjt · 26 Jul 2009 at 21:11

Morba said:
how do you know the space on the right is a disabled one?

upon closer inspection, it appears to be some rubbish

i thought the white stuff on the ground was the wheelchair painting

in that case, it's not really all that clear cut. it's weird, the sign is clearly in front of the middle space, but the disabled bay is the one on the left..

good luck!

IAmATeaf · 26 Jul 2009 at 22:49

Was there a sign on the railing where in the bay to the left where you parked? If not then it sort of looks like they painted the bay but put the sign up in front of the wrong bay.

Johnnytoxic · 26 Jul 2009 at 23:08

Contest it definitely,

I've got off with two parking tickets before when parking on broken yellow lines.

Dave85 · 26 Jul 2009 at 23:15

I would contest that, get a pic of the bay asap with no disabled marking on the ground, use the website listed above and you should get easily off with that.

gbradders123 · 27 Jul 2009 at 00:22

worth a try contesting, i tried once, and failed though.