Parking Ticket Query

TinkerBell said:
How has that backed up what you have said?
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It's just yet another way of extorting money out of citizens of this country.

So you feel we don't already pay enough with:

income tax
national insurance
council tax
value added tax
fuel tax
road tax
insurance tax
parking tax
"speeding tax"
inheritance tax

everyone in this country has their hands out and want to grab every spare penny you can afford. The government do it with taxes and fines, petty criminals do it by stealing your money or belongings, other criminals do it by scamming you on ebay or stealing your identity.

Aren't you sick of just rolling over and accepting it all?
 
gambitt said:
I'm sorry, that's complete rubbish. They LOVE people who think like this. These are the mugs who pay everyting because they're afraid to stand up for themselves and dispute it.
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If its a council owned and operated carpark, then they are both correct - the fine WILL grow, and is legally enforceable through a court.

If its private, its different.
 
gambitt said:
are you speaking from experience or are you just stating "the law"?

I've had a fair few tickets over the years from council pay and display space and private car parks, usually for going 5-10 minutes over (one time I got stuck in the lift on the way out of work lol). Always got the same generic threatening letters with scare tactics saying "zomg we're gonna take you to court and sell your house if you don't pay us £20!!". This usually works for most people (I'm guessing from your reply that it would work on you).

After 3 letters they give up. They don't take you to court, it's not worth their while.

These are "excess change notices" (also known as toilet paper). Tickets from the police usually "fixed penalty notices" are completely different and they will take you to court for their money! Although again this can be disputed if the yellow lines were broken or badly maintained ;)
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For a private car park - unless you’re clamped there is nothing they can do, unless there is some serious signage and you do something else, which I forget.

For a council they have no problem getting that fine from you, and you must have slipped through the system, or are misleading us, I've never know anyone not get away with it.
 
Fox, I've had around 5 fines from Cardiff council and 1 fine from Exeter council. None of them have gone to court. None of them have got bigger.
 
[DW]Muffin;10474683 said:
For a council they have no problem getting that fine from you, and you must have slipped through the system, or are misleading us, I've never know anyone not get away with it.
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once again, are you speaking through experience or are you just assuming this is the way it works? Have you been to court or have you just read a threatening letter and got scared?
 
gambitt said:
Fox, I've had around 5 fines from Cardiff council and 1 fine from Exeter council. None of them have gone to court. None of them have got bigger.
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You are either lying, or you've been lucky. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you've just been lucky.

I can assure you that a fine from a council for parking WILL increase in size as time goes on should you not pay.
 
I'm afraid you are wrong gambitt. How do I know? I used to work for a Baliff company that had contract to recover money for unpaid parking tickets. You do not 'go' to court, the debt is registered at court (Northampton County Court was the one that used to deal with the tickets we dealt with). Think it's scare tactics? Tell that to the people who used to be sat in our phone queue first thing on a Monday morning becuase their cars had been clamped ready for removal or the people who did have their cars sold at auction.

Of course you can only go by your personal experiences. You may have been lucky to get tickets from local authorities or companies that don't bother to persue it. I know from working with parking enforcement that it does happen.

Of course if you are lucky and your car is only worth a couple of hundred they don't bother taking it as it isn't worth their while.
 
stoofa said:
And this is why people who legitimately have an issue where the ticket did fall off the windscreen have so much hassle.
Due to people attempting to screw the system because they shouldn't have to pay for parking like the rest of us they will question you all the way and make your fight to get let off the fine.

If indeed it did fall off the windscreen I can only wish them luck and hope that an understanding person reads the claim.
However with so many people just sending in a random ticket they picked up off the floor because they couldn't be bothered to buy a ticket then don't expect it to be easy.
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Maybe but don't see why I should pay a large fine just because on that one occasion I forgot to get a ticket ! I'm sure you would be happy to pay the fine though :D
 
[TW]Fox;10474710 said:
You are either lying, or you've been lucky. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you've just been lucky.

I can assure you that a fine from a council for parking WILL increase in size as time goes on should you not pay.
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Firstly, don't call me a liar. I don't get my jollies off talking crap on an internet forum. So no need for your "benefit of the doubt" please. There is no doubt.

I can assure you that Cardiff and Exeter council WILL NOT increase the size as time goes on should you not pay.

Maybe your council is stricter.

I've done a lot of research in this. I know parking fines inside and out. I've had 1 "fixed penalty notice" for parking on a single yellow line and that did go to court (which incidently went in my favour as a large chunk of the line been tarmaced over).
 
I didn't call you a liar, I gave two possibilities and then selected the other one.

The situation you are describing is true only of private parking companies, who have no ability to recover the money. Councils, however, do.

It's in the Road Traffic Act, infact.
 
[TW]Fox;10474748 said:
I didn't call you a liar, I gave two possibilities and then selected the other one.

The situation you are describing is true only of private parking companies, who have no ability to recover the money. Councils, however, do.

It's in the Road Traffic Act, infact.
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yes they quote the Road Traffic Act in the "scare tactic" letters they send me. Threatening they will take you to court and actually taking you to court are completely seperate things ;)

By all means, everyone carry on being sheep and just accepting whatever fines they throw at us, even if they are unfair. They are rubbing their hands together becuase no one will stand up for themselves.
 
The point you are missing is that said Act DOES make provisions for them to do exactly that. Legally, they CAN do what they claim they will do.
 
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