parking ticket question

If I bought a train ticket at 4:13pm for a train departing at 4:30pm, would I be missing my train at 4:13pm?

You can appeal but I can almost guarantee they will reject because you have nothing to appeal against.

Waste of time and hassle.
 
SB118 said:
Think you've got the wrong end of the stick, if anything there would be even more proof that he had commited the offence. Video footage of the car being parked there for the ten minutes is somewhat compelling evidence that the offence happened.
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I don't think I have.

The observation time does not necessarily indicate the time the footage was being recorded or a photo taken. It is the time the enforcement officer observed the offence.

real said:
If the OP was lucky the photo might have shown a time AFTER 6 and then there would be no evidence to support the ticket- grounds for an appeal.
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Surely a recording of a warden stood by the car from 5.50 till 6.00 then issuing a ticket is going to make any appeal look a bit silly?

real said:
The observation time does not necessarily indicate the time the footage was being recorded or a photo taken. It is the time the enforcement officer observed the offence.
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So you're hoping that a CCTV system with a badly set clock is going to help him get out of the ticket? :confused:
 
real said:
What are you on about??

I did not imply either of those senarios.
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I really don't get how you're hoping that to work.

The video will show this;

17:49 - Empty Space
17:50 - OP Parking
17:51 - 17:59(or so) - Parked Car
17:59 - 18:01 - Ticket being written

Kind of proves he was parked there before 18:00
 
Then what are you trying to say?

Any video footage will have a timestamp showing that the warden observed the car commiting a parking offence from 5.50 until 6.00 and then being issued a ticket.

How is there any grounds for an appeal with that? How is that "no evidence to support the ticket- grounds for an appeal."?
 
This ticket was either issued by a CCTV camera or a parking enforcement warden.

Obviously if it was captured on CCTV then the chance that the guy chose to record it after 6 is very slim.

However if a warden issued the ticket there is a small chance that he took a photo of the offence right at the end of the observation time and possibly after the 6pm time. In that case they would not have any evidence of a contravention. You would win an appeal.

All I suggested was to request the evidence and to see if that took place as there is nothing to loose. Very quick to do and the ticket is put on hold.

I don't get why you are both talking about a CCTV operator watching a warden issue a ticket or an incorrectly set clock as that doesn't come into my argument.
 
Hang on, you think that the time the warden issues the ticket can alter the legality of it?

We were confused as you were talking drivel.

ROFL :D
 
Evidence of the contravention? You want the traffic warden to prove he was waiting by the car for those 10 minutes?
 
SB118 said:
You want the traffic warden to prove he was waiting by the car for those 10 minutes?
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You keep firing out questions that bare no relation to what I type and you are acusing me of talking drivel. When did I say the above?

Of course the warden doesn't have to prove he was there for the whole ten minutes. But the procedure is he has to provide evidence the offence took place. So I'd want a photo with a date/time stamp displaying a time that the parking was restricted not a later time when the restrictions have been lifted.
 
If Ish admits to parking illegally and was issued a ticket for it.. what is there to dispute?

Why would a ticket warden even issue a ticket for 1 minute past 18:00 but not for the 10mins prior 18:00?
 
real said:
You keep firing out questions that bare no relation to what I type and you are acusing me of talking drivel. When did I say the above?

Of course the warden doesn't have to prove he was there for the whole ten minutes. But the procedure is he has to provide evidence the offence took place. So I'd want a photo with a date/time stamp displaying a time that the parking was restricted not a later time when the restrictions have been lifted.
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I keep asking questions because you've not been making sense.
 
So your way of making sense of what I say is asking questions and making statements which are unrelated to the points I have been making...

What I have suggested may have been wrong but as you've not actually discussed my main point regarding the timing of the photographic evidence I'll never know. Not the issue time, not the time the warden was next to the car, but the evidence which legally needs to accompany a PCN which has been issued by an enforcement officer.

I'm not entering into a discussion of the morals of paying the ticket. He enquired about appealing the ticket due to being near the end of the restricted time. I gave suggestion.

Goodnight.
 
real said:
So your way of making sense of what I say is asking questions and making statements which are unrelated to the points I have been making...

What I have suggested may have been wrong but as you've not actually discussed my main point regarding the timing of the photographic evidence I'll never know. Not the issue time, not the time the warden was next to the car, but the evidence which legally needs to accompany a PCN which has been issued by an enforcement officer.
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You've made no sense at all in this thread, i've replied based on the odd comments you've been making.
 
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