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Pascal Titan-X Launch

Personally I don't think there is going to be a 1080 Ti, their simply can't be, right? lets look at the facts shall we?
GTX 680 2gb Vram 1536 cuda cores 256 - bit memory 32 rops
GTX Titan 6gb Vram 2688 cuda cores 384 bit memory 48 rops
GTX 780 3gb Vram 2304 cuda cores 384 bit memory 48 rops
GTX 780 Ti 3gb Vram 2880 cuda cores 384 bit memory 48 rops
GTX Titan black 6gb Vram 2880 cuda cores 384 bit memory 48 rops
GTX 980 4gb Vram 2048 cuda cores 256 bit memory 64 rops (GTX 680 successor)
GTX Titan X 12gb Vram 3072 cuda cores 384 bit memory 96 rops (GTX Titan successor)
GTX 980 Ti 6gb Vram 2816 cuda cores 384 bit memory 96 rops (slightly cut down)
GTX 1080 8Gb Vram 2560 cuda cores 256 bit memory 64 rops
Nvidia 'Titan x' 12Gb Vram 3584 cuda cores 384 bit memory 96 ROPS

The last time we had a cut down Titan was in the kepler series followed by the 780 Ti and the titan black with fully fledged GK110s now the problem is where can a 1080 Ti sit in? if you look at the history of the cards above each successor has at least SOMETHING doubled whether it be Rops or Vram.
This new titan card succeeds on doubling the Vram when compared to 980 Ti which a 1080 Ti would be the successor too yet matches the Titan X maxwell.
Where can a 1080 Ti fit into place? even if it matches the specs of Titan X with less cores what about the Vram 9gb? as that's the least they can put on a 384 bit interface whilst having more memory than the 1080/1070.
Personally I feel like when AMD brings something to the table a full fledged Titan will launch with 16gb Vram and this titan will get a heavy price cut and all of a sudden it'll feel like a bargain compared to what it WAS selling at and the fully fledged titan when that'll only offer around 10% more performance. Again all speculation but I just don't see where a 1080 Ti can fit in to this
 
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AllBodies said:
Yields and power (performance per watt). Disabling part of the chip increases yields and likely increases the performance per watt slightly.

The P100 tesla chip is for supercomputers and deep learning. This requires many many chips, and also performance per watt is largely more important than performance per individual chip. Since they'll be using so many of them together.
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Thank you, that makes sense, so when they release the gaming version, they disable the FP64 side of it or part of it, effectively which should increase the yields, so it works both ways the i guess?
 
apple have nearly always been about design more than performance
you got to admit they make some pretty laptop
 
it would be nice if we focused on the technical points rather than on the price and mocking those who will buy it.

Everyone is perfectly capable to decide for themselves if they want to buy or not and would appreciate answers to the question if it's worth it for what it offers and if it is much better than the previous ones.

Or would that be to helpful and we can't have that now, can we?
 
I'm really curious how this launch affects the 1080 Ti.

No one predicted this would come out so soon. They might just sit on this for much longer than the previous Titans because they can. The Ti has always been a response to something.
 
Griffildur said:
it would be nice if we focused on the technical points rather than on the price and mocking those who will buy it.

Everyone is perfectly capable to decide for themselves if they want to buy or not and would appreciate answers to the question if it's worth it for what it offers and if it is much better than the previous ones.

Or would that be to helpful and we can't have that now, can we?
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No, I think a discussion on price per performance is a valid one and it's one of the core metrics reviewers look at when advising if you should buy the card or not. That being said, mocking those people who would buy it is wrong, even with logical reasoning.
 
Seanspeed said:
Matching is not beating.


Irrelevant to the point being made. Dont take this as a ****ing match discussion, just going over how the competitiveness at the time affected Nvidia's release of the 780Ti.
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Matching is way more than "near enough to be competition" And that was reference cards, custom cards were faster.

And you are the one who turned into a ****ing match. Getting your little dig in had nothing to do with the point been made either. So you have no right to take the moral high ground.
 
Griffildur said:
it would be nice if we focused on the technical points rather than on the price and mocking those who will buy it.

Everyone is perfectly capable to decide for themselves if they want to buy or not and would appreciate answers to the question if it's worth it for what it offers and if it is much better than the previous ones.

Or would that be to helpful and we can't have that now, can we?
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Nice advice, listen to it next time you feel you want to haunt an AMD thread with nonsense, you and i both know this has happened recently ;)

I actually agree with you, if people want to waste money on Nvidia cards they should not be lambasted for doing so, however those whining about the cost and still buying the cards themselves need to take a long hard look at themselves.

I wouldnt buy this card, then again i wouldnt buy any Nvidia card currently as they are all overpriced by a huge amount.

It does seem odd though if its true that this card is a cutdown variant already? and that theres a better option waiting further along? makes you wonder if there will even be a 1080ti this round? perhaps they may well just release the TitanX and then drop an even better Titan Black shortly after?

Dunno, id listen to Kaap though, if anyone has experience with Titan cards and Nvidia cards overall, he is the man, he has so many of the damn things! He definitely knows what he is talking about most of the time, even though it pains me to agree with him sometimes when i hope he is wrong ;)
 
shankly1985 said:
I was thinking same thing other day.

Why is it if you disagree with something like Titan lineup people jump to the defence with you can't afford one bah bah black sheep?

I have the money to buy, but I would sooner spend my money more wisely. People should just wait for the Ti lineup.
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I explained this to you the other day. I don't tell people to buy a Ford over Audi as they are cheaper, I don't tell people to buy cheap trainers over Nike's as they are cheaper and you shouldn't tell people what they should and shouldn't buy with GPUs. If someone asks you for advice, go for it but as nobody is, stop it!

And why is it when people like these sort of cards you jump on the attack?
 
Seanspeed said:
290X didn't beat a Titan when it came out. It was near enough to be competition, though.
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