Pascal Titan-X Launch

shankly1985 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:11

Mayh3M said:
The AMD fanboys are out in droves I see.

Too bad AMD won't provide this level of performance for years.

AMD Fanboy recommending to buy a Nvidia GPU? Well that makes perfect sense :rolleyes:

Tip: Am not a FanBoy! never have and never will. I have recommended Nvidia GPUs to a lot of people. A true Story a friend mine called Chaboy quite big on Youtube his first PC recommended by me was a Nvidia 670 I could easy told him to buy AMD but I didn't because at the time that was his best choice.
Now my choice would have been AMD because I dislike how Nvidia do things doesn't make me a Fanboy!

:eek:

Mayh3M · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:12

SiDeards73 said:
Hahahah

Pot... Kettle....

Seen you in a few AMD threads recently doing exactly the same. Sometimes truth stings a little.

Instead of saying: 'hey, you should buy this AMD alternative', all you can do is blame Nvidia and consumers for buying these cards.

Pathetic.

Mayh3M · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:13

AMD is 2 years behind Nvidia by their own admission.

But lets blame Nvidia and consumers. The logic of AMD fanatics.

arc@css · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:14

Kaapstad said:
Imagine the jokes when people see the price if NVidia called it the "Titan P".

SiDeards73 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:16

Mayh3M said:
Instead of saying: 'hey, you should buy this AMD alternative', all you can do is blame Nvidia and consumers for buying these cards.

Pathetic.

Dude AMD Dont have alternatives to these Nvidia cards right now... the only AMD alternative is a 480 vs 1060... wtf are you on????

you think im going to recommend a Fiji card? LOL... mental.. AMD have been behind Nvidia for ages, your point is not even valid this round of cards and you damn well know it.

Im not blaming people for buying these cards either, if you want to waste your money on them go for it, more power to you, i wouldnt buy one because i dont buy Nvidia products, not to say they are bad, they are not, they are infact really decently made for the most part, i just personally find them horrendously overpriced and i feel Nvidia lie a lot to their customers, and have no quibbles hiking prices, and also pulling off stunts like the previous TitanX / 980ti shafting.

if your happy to swallow that kinda behaviour, well your a better man than me, because personally that type of unlubed love, i find particular difficult to sit down with

humbug · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:16

Mayh3M said:
AMD is 2 years behind Nvidia by their own admission.

But lets blame Nvidia and consumers. The logic of AMD fanatics.

AMD said they are 2 years behind Nvidia? lol way to stab youself in the back, would love to see that, where is the link?

SiDeards73 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:18

Mayh3M said:
AMD is 2 years behind Nvidia by their own admission.

But lets blame Nvidia and consumers. The logic of AMD fanatics.

So you firmly believe if people did not buy Nvidia cards, they would still release them at such high premiums year after year?

shankly1985 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:18

SiDeards73 said:
Dude AMD Dont have alternatives to these Nvidia cards right now... the only AMD alternative is a 480 vs 1060... wtf are you on????

you think im going to recommend a Fiji card? LOL... mental.. AMD have been behind Nvidia for ages, your point is not even valid this round of cards and you damn well know it.

Im not blaming people for buying these cards either, if you want to waste your money on them go for it, more power to you, i wouldnt buy one because i dont buy Nvidia products, not to say they are bad, they are not, they are infact really decently made for the most part, i just personally find them horrendously overpriced and i feel Nvidia lie a lot to their customers, and have no quibbles hiking prices, and also pulling off stunts like the previous TitanX / 980ti shafting.

if your happy to swallow that kinda behaviour, well your a better man than me, because personally that type of unlubed love, i find particular difficult to sit down with

Agreed!

shankly1985 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:20

humbug said:
AMD said they are 2 years behind Nvidia? lol way to stab youself in the back, would love to see that, where is the link?

Might be behind in power, but they sure not behind in features DX12_1 Ha
Titan X better support Async 2.0 and while its at it support DX13

Mayh3M · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:20

SiDeards73 said:
Seen you in a few AMD threads recently doing exactly the same. Sometimes truth stings a little.

I have never ever ridiculed anyone for buying a GPU.

Mayh3M · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:21

SiDeards73 said:
Dude AMD Dont have alternatives to these Nvidia cards right now... the only AMD alternative is a 480 vs 1060... wtf are you on????

you think im going to recommend a Fiji card? LOL... mental.. AMD have been behind Nvidia for ages, your point is not even valid this round of cards and you damn well know it.

Im not blaming people for buying these cards either, if you want to waste your money on them go for it, more power to you, i wouldnt buy one because i dont buy Nvidia products, not to say they are bad, they are not, they are infact really decently made for the most part, i just personally find them horrendously overpriced and i feel Nvidia lie a lot to their customers, and have no quibbles hiking prices, and also pulling off stunts like the previous TitanX / 980ti shafting.

if your happy to swallow that kinda behaviour, well your a better man than me, because personally that type of unlubed love, i find particular difficult to sit down with

That's my point. AMD don't have any alternatives. So OF COURSE Nvidia can price their GPUs higher. AMD failed to compete. People like you love to whine about an Nvidia monopoly but fail to hold AMD to account for the current state of affairs. I blame the loser, not the winner.

Mayh3M · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:22

SiDeards73 said:
So you firmly believe if people did not buy Nvidia cards, they would still release them at such high premiums year after year?

I firmly believe that if AMD were competent, Nvidia would not price their cards as high as they do. Blaming consumers is a waste of time. The market decides the value of goods.

ihatelag · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:24

humbug said:
AMD said they are 2 years behind Nvidia? lol way to stab youself in the back, would love to see that, where is the link?

PCPer special with Raja Koduri, I'll give you a timestamp in PM when I get home tonight (after 6pm)

shankly1985 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:24

Mayh3M said:
I firmly believe that if AMD were competent, Nvidia would not price their cards as high as they do. Blaming consumers is a waste of time. The market decides the value of goods.

Hold on then what about past GPU line ups?? Titan, Ti even before Fury AMD was known for its lower priced GPUs while Nvidia continued to release GPUs at higher price! This isnt something that only just started this been ongoing for years.

Mayh3M · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:25

humbug said:
AMD said they are 2 years behind Nvidia? lol way to stab youself in the back, would love to see that, where is the link?

I don't have a link, and I take back the certainty with which I said it. But it's been said numerous times on these forums that Koduri has openly said in an interview that AMD are around two years behind Nvidia. I think he was referring to performance per watt.

Edit:

ihatelag said:
PCPer special with Raja Koduri, I'll give you a timestamp in PM when I get home tonight (after 6pm)

Mayh3M · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:26

shankly1985 said:
Hold on then what about past GPU line ups?? Titan, Ti even before Fury AMD was known for its lower priced GPUs while Nvidia continued to release GPUs at higher price! This isnt something that only just started this been ongoing for years.

The level of competition over time has fallen because AMD have failed to keep up.

AMD can't compete with Nvidia at the high end anymore. They're way behind Nvidia, to the detriment of all consumers.

humbug · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:28

shankly1985 said:
Might be behind in power, but they sure not behind in features DX12_1 Ha
Titan X better support Async 2.0 and while its at it support DX13

AMD are not even FL DX12.1, DX12.1 was Nvidia's doing by introducing Conservative Rasterization.

Where is it?

Like Nvidia keep saying with DX12.0 A-Sync

Soon'tm

humbug · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:30

Mayh3M said:
I don't have a link, and I take back the certainty with which I said it. But it's been said numerous times on these forums that Koduri has openly said in an interview that AMD are around two years behind Nvidia. I think he was referring to performance per watt.

Edit:

Yes i remember that, it wasn't quite like that, he was referring to AMD's old cards, it was in reference to efficiency improvements coming down the line.

shankly1985 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:30

humbug said:
AMD are not even FL DX12.1, DX12.1 was Nvidia's doing by introducing Conservative Rasterization.

Where is it?

Like Nvidia keep saying with DX12.0 Soon'tm

Not . its 12_1 its just feature set

shankly1985 · 22 Jul 2016 at 14:31

Mayh3M said:
The level of competition over time has fallen because AMD have failed to keep up.

AMD can't compete with Nvidia at the high end anymore. They're way behind Nvidia, to the detriment of all consumers.

Cant compete? AMD only need to release a highend GPU and they back in the game.