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Pascal Titan-X Launch

yoyo59 said:
second this,

perks of gtx 1080
-uses less power and runs cooler can really tell a difference since I have both my gpu/cpu on 1 240mm rad I really noticed the difference compared to my titan x / 980 ti

- only 20-30% slower than a £1200 gpu ( with block )

also although you can flash a bios on the 1080s ( I have flashed a few)

many reported including myself that the scores are lower in benchmarks/games etc even though the clocks seem to be higher, its asus poorly done bios, shows higher clocks freq yet is inferior to the FE bios which has been proven to be the best bios, makes you wonder how good the the asus strix oc actually are if the bios is poor compared to FE bios
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EDIT : is this xoc bios different from the first strixs? I tested the very first ones? maybe I need to try it this one if its new
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It's the 1.25v bios, the only bios which gives the 1080 more volts. You need decent cooling like water though or a very good decent air cooler.

On air people are getting 2.1 to 2.2 and on water it's 2.3 to 2.4

I think it was the bios used on the cards sent to the reviewers, not retail shipped ones.
 
Combat Fighter said:
What a load of BS.

You don't know how well the TXP clocks on a proper water block/voltage control/modded bios.

It's going to be higher than 30%!
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going by the 1080 its not going to magically unlock anything special

its still pascal.

also new flash sorry to burst your bubble but I highly doubt there will be any modded bios etc so you can say goodbye to that one
adding a block will probably give you 5% extra performance but keep throttling down
 
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Greebo said:
It's the 1.25v bios, the only bios which gives the 1080 more volts. You need decent cooling like water though or a very good decent air cooler.

On air people are getting 2.1 to 2.2 and on water it's 2.3 to 2.4

I think it was the bios used on the cards sent to the reviewers, not retail shipped ones.
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I just tried the xoc bios which is 1.2v which I think the one your on about
ran some tests and can confirm its not any better than the FE, its actually worse, max clocks 2300 yet the 2100mhz FE was beating it
 
Combat Fighter said:
What a load of BS.

You don't know how well the TXP clocks on a proper water block/voltage control/modded bios.

It's going to be higher than 30%!
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Why though? Why would it be better than 1080 for this? it is a bigger card with higher TDP, other than that it has the same architecture... why do you think it will be better than a 1080? Please just try to be objective thanks.
 
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XOC bios isn't crap, it's no good on cards that aren't Asus Strix OC as the bios is designed for those cards. If you've got an FE, then the FE bios is better (despite the XOC bios chucking out faster clocks) as it's written for your card. Only ones that give you a bit of a boost are like for like bioses.

But yeah, the XP will only be proportionally better than the 1080 in the same way 980ti<1080, so 20-30% depending on silicon lottery. Tempting though for a single card setup, but sadly not the 4k/60 otherwise I'd be all over it. Ace card though :)
 
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Gerard said:
No sour grapes here, i simply refuse to pay for a card with that kind of a ludicrous price tag with a bare bones warranty that needs aftermarket add ons to make it perform close relevant to the cost. And the 30% is best case scenario, against a clocked up 1080 that margin drastically shrinks.
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I agree with the ludicrious price tag. I did buy it though because:
1. there is no cheaper alernative
2. it is unclear if a TI will be released and if it will be it will come once Vega arrives wich will be a while
3. a 1080 GTX is not a big enough upgrade from the Fury X
4. I play with the HTC Vive and Supersampling needs every little itsy bit of GPU power. SLI is not an option for VR right now.
5. I have experience with SLI and crossfire. I am only interested in maximum single GPU performance for that reason.

I put a waterblock on any card i buy. The ****** cooler is a non issue for me. There is even a tech support conversationa bout that shows that you are allowed to remove the cooler. Even if not - I never cared, why should I start now.
 
yoyo59 said:
I just tried the xoc bios which is 1.2v which I think the one your on about
ran some tests and can confirm its not any better than the FE, its actually worse, max clocks 2300 yet the 2100mhz FE was beating it
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Interesting.....so you are saying fe at lower clocks are beating 10% faster aib cards in the actual benchmarks?
 
Greebo said:
Interesting.....so you are saying fe at lower clocks are beating 10% faster aib cards in the actual benchmarks?
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it seems that way, maybe the bios doesn't play nice on the FE

but every bios ive tried the FE is stronger at lower clocks


id be willing to compare my 2100mhz valley scores with anyones strix 2100 valley scores
 
yoyo59 said:
it seems that way, maybe the bios doesn't play nice on the FE

but every bios ive tried the FE is stronger at lower clocks


id be willing to compare my 2100mhz valley scores with anyones strix 2100 valley scores
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You need the same cpu as well though.......

But would be interested in the results.
 
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VincentHanna said:
Question

If Nvidia were to release a version of this in say 6 months with 3840 CUDA cores and HBM2 memory, would the buyers of the current Titan X's be annoyed?
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The potential of the card with the full Cuda cores unlocked coming out is why I can't get this card. Have the dough, but I know if they release a full Geforce GTX family GPU on this core for cheaper I would be hacked off.

That and with the old Titan X I've got I'm hardly suffering. Just like those on 1080s, it's probably enough to struggle on like a good old peasant for 6 months to see the full picture of Pascal. Nice to see Boom staying strong too after being burnt a few times with early adoption tax.
 
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RanxZy said:
The potential of the card with the full Cuda cores unlocked coming out is why I can't get this card. Have the dough, but I know if they release a full Geforce GTX family GPU on this core for cheaper I would be hacked off.

That and with the old Titan X I've got I'm hardly suffering. Just like those on 1080s, it's probably enough to struggle on for 6 months to see the full picture of Pascal. Nice to see Boom staying strong too after being burnt a few times with early adoption tax.
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Why not ebay your TX and get a 1080 while you are waiting, looking on ebay the TX still go for almost as much as you could get a 1080 for, so that is 20% performance increase for almost nothing.
 
VincentHanna said:
Question

If Nvidia were to release a version of this in say 6 months with 3840 CUDA cores and HBM2 memory, would the buyers of the current Titan X's be annoyed?
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I would not touch it with a barge poll.

After using HBM on the Fury X I would leave it alone until it has been proved to be a success.

I think HBM is fine on a low clocked compute card but the jury is still out on a high clocked gaming card.

It is interesting that no one has released a gaming card using it since the Fiji cards. It is also not due to cost as the Fiji cards sold at reasonable prices.
 
Kaapstad said:
I would not touch it with a barge poll.

After using HBM on the Fury X I would leave it alone until it has been proved to be a success.

I think HBM is fine on a low clocked compute card but the jury is still out on a high clocked gaming card.

It is interesting that no one has released a gaming card using it since the Fiji cards. It is also not due to cost as the Fiji cards sold at reasonable prices.
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No its purely because HBM is limited to 4GB. Would anybody have bought the Titan XP if it only had 4gb memory, half of a 1080?

No way would Nvidia release a top end gaming card with 4Gb ram and make the same mistake AMD did.

Thats why they waited for HBM2.

Nvidias next high end gaming card will have 16Gb HBM2 ram and mid/high range will have 8Gb.
 
Greebo said:
No its purely because HBM is limited to 4GB. Would anybody have bought the Titan XP if it only had 4gb memory, half of a 1080?

No way would Nvidia release a top end gaming card with 4Gb ram and make the same mistake AMD did.

Thats why they waited for HBM2.

Nvidias next high end gaming card will have 16Gb HBM2 ram and mid/high range will have 8Gb.
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Wish there was some better information on what is going on with nVidia and HBM2 - been some strange rumours but I've never seen any good info.
 
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