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Pascal to get DXR

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RTX sales must be in the ****.

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Agree with Gamers nexus take on this, it’s also a nice showcase, may have some people see the new shiney effects on their GTX cards but run like a slideshow so may upgrade. Not much effort on a Nvidias part to enable it I expect.
 
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RTX sales must be in the ****.

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Table is incorrect.

Titan V can do full RTX and performance is close to the RTX2060.

Not the first time NVidia have got their facts wrong.:D


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Agree with Gamers nexus take on this, it’s also a nice showcase, may have some people see the new shiney effects on their GTX cards but run like a slideshow so may upgrade. Not much effort on a Nvidias part to enable it I expect.

Indeed it is just a gimmick from NVidia that will probably do them more harm than good when people see older cards running at a snails pace.
 
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Nvidia could always drop Ray's down to like 1 instead of 11 for Pascal but it's unlikely you'll ever see the difference at that stage. Something similar to what crytek is doing I believe. I have my popcorn ready to see the 2060 can do to the Radeon 7 in the crytek demo though
 
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Table is incorrect.

Titan V can do full RTX and performance is close to the RTX2060.

Not the first time NVidia have got their facts wrong.:D


The BFV results showed that on some maps with low amounts of reflections Titan V could keep up witha 2060/70, but on maps with lots of reflections the 2060 pulled well ahead.

And the TItanV is a compute beast with massively more CUDA cores. Remember thios is the GPU Nvidia first used to demonstrate real-time RT so it is hardly surprising
 
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The BFV results showed that on some maps with low amounts of reflections Titan V could keep up witha 2060/70, but on maps with lots of reflections the 2060 pulled well ahead.

And the TItanV is a compute beast with massively more CUDA cores. Remember thios is the GPU Nvidia first used to demonstrate real-time RT so it is hardly surprising

I don't think BFV comes anywhere close to Port Royal when using RTX to the extreme and in that test there is not much difference between the 2060 and Titan V.

Having said that if I don't like the RTX performance on the Titan V my other 4 RTX cards are not bad at it.:p
 
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wonder how amd architecture compares to pascal with ray tracing then(where supported)


It might be slightly faster due to raw compute difference, but a lot will depend on how good AMD's driver team are at extracting performance and intracies of architectures. Nvidia uses CUDA which is very low-level close to the metal API and extremely efficient.
 
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They have done it so people will see what ray tracing looks like (although performance wont be great) and will be tempted to buy an RTX card
 
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Yeah they want you to be able to preview how good it looks.
I think they also want you to enable RTX by accident and think your performance is bad so you think you need a new card.

The elephant in the room is you always get better fps with RTX OFF, regardless of what card you have, and the current trend is people replacing 60hz monitors with 144hz monitors, so it's fps that people value more highly.
 
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They have done it so people will see what ray tracing looks like (although performance wont be great) and will be tempted to buy an RTX card

Will also make cards directly comparable too.Ie, Ti/2080/2070 vs 1080 Ti or TitanXP with RT on will soon be a more standard benchmark comparison, if only to draw more people to the RTX cards. I expect the RT quality to be scaled back by the drivers so probably not directly comparable on FPS only.
Nobody likes turning things down or off either so expose people to RT and they will likely want a GPU that's better at it.

Will be good to see how it pans out on Pascal cards.
 
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Indeed it is just a gimmick from NVidia that will probably do them more harm than good when people see older cards running at a snails pace.

yep as soon as i seen announcement its just a way to try and trick you into selling your 10 series card and get a newer 2000 series. RTX is a joke. even the cards than can run it are struggling performance wise might be worth using in a few years lol.
 
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Will also make cards directly comparable too.Ie, Ti/2080/2070 vs 1080 Ti or TitanXP with RT on will soon be a more standard benchmark comparison, if only to draw more people to the RTX cards. I expect the RT quality to be scaled back by the drivers so probably not directly comparable on FPS only.
Nobody likes turning things down or off either so expose people to RT and they will likely want a GPU that's better at it.

Will be good to see how it pans out on Pascal cards.

I’ll be keeping my 1080ti until a gpu comes along priced right that’s compelling enough...

Now I can ray trace won’t suddenly make me want a RTX card as my 1080ti is lacking...
 
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