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MrSimpleSkill

MrSimpleSkill

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Budget is going to be £2000 (obviously less is better try to make it cheaper)


Basically want to be able to play latest games on max comfortable.


BF4 will be what i play mainly but assassins creed as well. The latest games basically!


I would also prefer a gaming laptop over a desktop due to not much room.


But if a gaming laptop for 2000 pound would not play/handle as well as a 2000 pound desktop than I would rather make room for a desktop.


I'm wanting maximum performance as cheap as possible.


Please consider overclocking CPU/GPU and RAM to save cost say if an i5 4670k overclocked would out perform a i7 4770k or 4970k overclocked then I would prefer the i5


Same goes for a GPU say a GTX 770 if this would be as fast overclocked than the 780 / 780ti then I would prefer the 770


I don't no if overclocking RAM is to hard because there's not much of a mention of it.


An idea of case size a 900d would fit but only just so something similar to this case would be great. Also try and match colours inside of the case including cables, fans RAM etc.


If hope it have made my self clear and not bored you to death. Please get back to me a soon as possible. Don't forget it would prefer a laptop.


Also worth mentioning my budget doesn't need to include a monitor or keyboard or mouse speakers just an operating, system windows 7 or 8 not bothered just which ever is better optimised for gaming as this is what this will be used for primarly.


Also a killer NIC card or an MSI motherboard with a killer NIC port included would be great but not necessarily needed if the 30 - 40 is needed else where

Hope this makes sense :)

I don't know much about pc now used to have one 3 years back with ATI 5870 (I think that's all I can remember from it because I still have the two gpu's lol
 
Danny75 said:
Which monitor (and resolution) are you going to use? This will have a bearing on the GPU power required.

Desktop all the way... and no need for a gigantic 900D unless you're going to watercool big-time. A micro-ATX 350D build would be suitable and not take up so much room. Or a more modest full tower like a 450D, 760T...
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1920x1080 (HD basically) 39 inch sony bravia (1ms) a bit big but it saves another £100 :)

Be building my self to save costs:)

Just suggest something im not overly bothered what case just a nice case. Just need a case with great cable management and space to upgrade in the furture
 
Bicepo said:
Hi,

Yeah sure that's understandable, you just get a little extra piece of mind if anything goes wrong if we pre-built.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £259.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3x OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N770OC-2GD) £239.99
1 x Crucial M500 480GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (CT480M500SSD1) £179.99
1 x Corsair Graphite 760T Windowed Full Tower Gaming Case - White (CC-9011045-WW) £152.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLD316G1600HC9DC01) £115.99
1 x MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £114.95
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 650W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £79.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x Prolimatech Black Megahalems CPU Cooler £52.99
1 x OcUK Value Blu-ray / DVDRW combi SATA - OEM £39.95
2 x Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PLPS - 120mm PWM (1500rpm) £12.95 (£25.90)
Total : £1,339.21 (includes shipping : £13.75).



The PSU I have selected for you has just won an award with Bittech/custom pc in a group test so I thought I would put that in there for you. Kept the White LED theme going off the PSU into the case.
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Thanks for this :)

What's the difference between the GTX 770 and GTX 780 and GTX 780ti

How much do you charge to put it all together plus whats the average time for a build?
 
Doomedspeed said:
Hi, Firstly welcome to the Forums (as Muscle man didn't :p)

Even though you have a large budget i think you may be aiming too high.

I know you say you want to play these games comfortably but you don't need a monster rig for that.

Take a look here at some benchmarks: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/27/battlefield-4-performance-analysis/3

As your TV will only be 60hz (i assume) you only need to look at 60FPS as Maxing out your display.

As you seem to be a bargain hunter (as i am too) i have come up with 2 option for you.

1) Budget and Overclock
2) High-End

The first is a low priced (for what your budget is) Rig that WILL handle games at 1080p for a little while to come yet with OC headroom for improving FPS.

Here it is:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £173.99
1 x Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 WindForce 3X OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £169.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97P-D3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £69.95
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Crucial MX100 128GB SATA 2.5” 7mm SSD + 9.5mm Adapter (CT128MX100SSD1) £53.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler £49.99
1 x NZXT Hale Power 90+ 550W '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £43.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £42.98
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-14 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.99
Total : £764.23 (includes shipping : £17.85).



Overclocking: The 4670k can be overclocked more, this increase BF4 performance a fair bit. To allow this i have included the K2 cooler which is a monster. You should be around 4.2-4.5ghz easy with this setup.

The GPU is a 280(non-x) with a good cooler. This is on offer (so be quick) at a silly low price. This can be overclocked to fall into the 280X-290 (non-X) range of benhmarks (above).

Less than half the budget too, can't complain.

So what could you do with more of the money?

YOUR BASKET
2 x Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 OC WindForce 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-R929OC-4GD) £319.99 (£639.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z97 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £128.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £109.98
1 x Corsair Obsidian 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Case (CC-9011049-WW) £91.99
1 x Seasonic M12II EVO Edition 850W '80 Plus Bronze' Fully Modular Power Supply £89.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 1220 Series 4 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £81.6
1 x Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (HX24C11BRK2/8-OC) £67.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x Corsair SP120 Quiet Series High Pressure Low Noise - Dual Pack (CO-9050006-WW) £22
2 x Corsair AF120 Performance Series Low Noise High Airflow - Dual Pack (CO-9050004-WW) £22 (£44.00)
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-14 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.99
Total : £1,634.98 (includes shipping : £13.75).



So, where do i start.

4790k, (you can go for the 4770k if its still pre-order when you come to buy). Great CPU with HT for furture advancements.

2 x R9 290's. These will demolish anything. On the BF$ FPS chart i linked above it will be a more more than the 7990. Which is madness. :)

Watercooler, may get a bigger overclock.

Motherboard is important, i picked it for two reasons. Firstly slot spacing. It has enough spacing to allow the first GPU to breathe which means the GPU can be OC'ed too, Basically becoming 290X's. :)
The other reason is the on-board sound, the Sniper series has STUNNING on-board sound, thats what the green capacitors are. :)

This is a bit of Epeen too, with all pretty matching colours. Its a peice of art.

Like i say, you can 'Do the Job' for £800 or 'Blow the doors of it' for double the money, but still under budget. It just depends on what you want.

I think both are great options for completely different reasons. :)
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Thanks for this suggestion. I do like a bargain. Would the £800 spec fit in the case that Chris mention the Corsair 760T White? I understand the ATI cards a bad with Watch dogs is this still the case?(Quite funny since I'm talking about case. Meh I chuckled anyway)

My TV is a 200Hz whether 200Hz on a TV has the same effect as 144hz a monitor I don't know.
 
Bicepo said:
Hi,

No Problem, the 780 has slightly more memory and shaders than the 770 and the 780TI is a newer revision of the Architecture. For 1080P a 770 will run pretty much anything and has a very reasonable price point and in the future if you get a little more hungry you could add another one, although if you did have plans to do that it may be worth putting a slightly larger PSU in there.

What we charge varies with the complexity of the system, I can arrange for a quote if you would like? for the additional we will provide you with dedicated support for you PC for 24 months after purchase, that is a collect and return warranty also, so if anything was to go wrong we would collect from your home, repair it and then return it back to you. Our standard build time is 7 days but we can build them quicker but there is a small charge to have a fast track service.

Regards

Chris
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Yeah go ahead and get a quote please even if I changed my mind it wont be and thing drastic like adding a full water cooling loop
 
Bicepo said:
Hi,

I have a quote together, could you update your Trust information (click the Trust box on the bottom right of one of your posts, Login and update your Information) I can then email a quote through.

FYI we can build pretty much any of the Spec's that have been listed in this thread for about the same sort of price as we have the one on the quote I have prepared.

The 280's are great cards Doomedspeed is right and are a very good price, it comes down to personal preference really, I do prefer Nvidia cards so I recommend them first :)

Chris
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I think I updated it. I clicked save, but the window didn't appear to do anything
 
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Should I wait till the i5 4690k comes out? Instead of buying the i5 4670k?

The only difference I see is the base clock speed is 3.4Ghz on 4670k and 3.5Ghz on the 4690k. Is their anything else to consider.

Basically when I look at a CPU I think faster the Clock speed the better the CPU but i'm convinced there will be other factors to consider.

Also I remember seeing that the 800 series has been pushed forward to Q4 of this year (Instead of February I think) so is it worth waiting for them? Plus by that time I will have a bit more money to put towards the system and other things will have come down in price if the 800 series isn't worth the money.

So a win win I think :)
 
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Would it be pointless buying a i5 4690k and then buying 2 x GTX 780 ti?

Like would the CPU be good enough for two GTX 780 ti?

Or would there be throttling (Is that what you call it when one thing holds something back)
 
Doomedspeed said:
Maybe a little.

On a pure GPU based program, it won't, and on a single threaded game/application, No it won't.

But as games and programs are gradually getting more HT friendly CPU's are becoming bottlenecks.

Really I'd suggest a 4790k just for hyperthreading. AS it would be a waste if your CPU was bottlenecking £1000's worth of GPU. :)
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Ok thanks for clearing it up. I thought I better make sure.

Do the h100i cooler come with everything needed to work out the box?

Also what kind of watt PSU will I need for and i7 4970k, 2 x 780ti, 2 x SDD 512GB, Crucial 2666mhz Dual Channel 8GB RAM (2 x 4GB), Optical drive 2 default case fans (Corsair 760t) and H100i Water Cooler but No sound card (Think that is about it) currently selected a 760w CorsairRM Modular but not sure If that would be enough

Sorry cant remember exact model names for all things I have in basket ( don't quote me on 2 case fans just a guess lol)
 
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I very been doing more research into processor and hearing that "Intel Pentuim G3258 Anniversary Edition" in gaming terms it's only just behind the "i7 4790k". Would you suggest the G3258 to save money personally I don't see why I shouldn't when it's like £60 compared to £270.

I will be only using the pc for gaming nothing else apart from Internet netflix etc
 
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