PC games not possible on console

iamthenugget · 25 Apr 2015 at 14:46

ive always wondered after my son constantly tells me how superiour the so called PC master race is. however given how powerful the top end pcs are ive often wondered if there are actually any PC games that utilise the full power are therefore unplayable if ported over to the current gen consoles.

mid_gen · 25 Apr 2015 at 14:57

Bit of a stranve question. GTA5 running maxed out at 4k would be unplayable on a console.

There's nothing fundamentally that a PC can do that a current gen console with multiple cores and a decent GPU can't...a PC can just do it at higher quality settings.

Zefan · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:01

Seeing as current gen consoles are just PCs, this boils down even further and makes it a very simple case of your question really being "Which games will only run on top end PCs?" - the answer is none. Every PC game has scaling built in to allow them to actually get sales from people other than the top 1% of PC gamers that have the cream of computer hardware, therefore every game will work on mid/low-range PCs, therefore current gen consoles.

iamthenugget · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:04

so basically there is no point spending 1500-2k on a pc for a game that might look a bit better than a £300 console???

Moothead2 · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:05

I seem to remember CPU intensive games like RTS' would struggle to run on consoles. Not sure if that's still the case or if it's purely down to the control method these days.

You can spend a fair bit less than a grand and still get much better performance than a console. For a lot of people it's not just about graphics either, it's about performance. A stable 60 FPS is infinitely better than stable 30 FPS like most consoles games.

Jae-So · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:06

mid_gen said:
Bit of a stranve question. GTA5 running maxed out at 4k would be unplayable on a console.

There's nothing fundamentally that a PC can do that a current gen console with multiple cores and a decent GPU can't...a PC can just do it at higher quality settings.

This, I suppose the point is to maximise the games, get the most graphically.Oh and mods, let's not forget mods, but I am starting to drift from the main question.

iamthenugget · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:09

Moothead2 said:
I seem to remember CPU intensive games like RTS' would struggle to run on consoles. Not sure if that's still the case or if it's purely down to the control method these days.

You can spend a fair bit less than a grand and still get much better performance than a console. For a lot of people it's not just about graphics either, it's about performance. A stable 60 FPS is infinitely better than stable 30 FPS like most consoles games.

reason i ask is my son keeps banging on about the pc being the so called master race along with his friends but he fails to mention one single game that the pc can run that is not possible on a current gen games console. which in my opionion kinda negates his argument hence why i came and posted asking if there was any games that would never be possible on a console

Pigeon_Killer · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:13

iamthenugget said:
so basically there is no point spending 1500-2k on a pc for a game that might look a bit better than a £300 console???

Depends what your expectations from gaming are. If you want the best graphical experience and will expect nothing less, a PC's the only answer. If you can accept that by playing on a console the graphics and possibly the AI will be inferior then it's a very cheap alternative.

I still use a PC as well as a console but I've been favouring Indie titles recently which play more like the games I remembered when I was younger. A lot more story and gameplay oriented than anything else so either work for me.

Moothead2 · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:13

It's not been a case of games exclusive to PC for a long time. PC gaming offers better graphical fidelity, better performance, flexibility for fine tuning performance and offering numerous control methods to suit your needs as well as other benefits like multi-monitor displays and ultrawide displays. Not to mention games are often a lot cheaper than on console and lots of them can be improved by mods.

iamthenugget · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:15

Moothead2 said:
It's not been a case of games exclusive to PC for a long time. PC gaming offers better graphical fidelity, better performance, flexibility for fine tuning performance and offering numerous control methods to suit your needs as well as other benefits like multi-monitor displays and ultrawide displays. Not to mention games are often a lot cheaper than on console.

thats the only benefit i can see for pc gaming is the cost of digital games, which im a big fan of

ic1male · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:21

iamthenugget said:
reason i ask is my son keeps banging on about the pc being the so called master race along with his friends

Just give him a slap and put him to bed early.

iamthenugget · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:24

ic1male said:
Just give him a slap and put him to bed early.

easier said than done when he has an answer to everything

ic1male · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:26

Does he own a gaming PC or is this his way of telling you he wants you to buy one?

iamthenugget · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:33

no he has one, quite a good one i think but when he has his games running at ultra i fail to see the dif hence the original question

Zefan · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:48

You can't see the difference between a PC running at 1080p+ at high settings with anti-aliasing vs a console running at medium settings with no anti-aliasing?

Go to specsavers

tbyeah · 25 Apr 2015 at 15:54

RTS games often don't run well at all on consoles due to their limitations and have unit limits etc that the PC counterparts won't have.

Omaeka · 25 Apr 2015 at 16:48

Last generation the hardware gap was much smaller than this one, and there were many PC games not possible on the PS3/X360. Technology however is starting to slow down compared to back then and despite hardware being much more powerful outside of consoles than ever before, the technology isn't there and the consoles can do pretty much everything as of now. I don't think hardware has ever out scaled technology... At least not this much.

ZG002 · 25 Apr 2015 at 16:54

RTS games can run on consoles, but I've always found its the control scheme that's the issue being on a controller.

Boomstick777 · 25 Apr 2015 at 17:05

iamthenugget said:
so basically there is no point spending 1500-2k on a pc for a game that might look a bit better than a £300 console???

You don't need to spend anywhere near that much to beat the console experience.

Console is 1080P and sub 1080P at 30fps.

An Intel i3 with a GTX 750 Ti or R9 270 could pull that off

That setup is pennies..

Zefan said:
You can't see the difference between a PC running at 1080p+ at high settings with anti-aliasing vs a console running at medium settings with no anti-aliasing?

Go to specsavers

+ 1 million.

GTA V on PC with all the bells @ whistles @ 1080P is night and day over the PS4 version @ 1080P.

Just the frame-rate alone not being capped at 30fps, makes the PC version hands down better.

msmalls74 · 25 Apr 2015 at 17:17

Boomstick777 said:
You don't need to spend anywhere near that much to beat the console experience.

Console is 1080P and sub 1080P at 30fps.

An Intel i3 with a GTX 750 Ti or R9 270 could pull that off That setup is pennies..

+ 1 million.

GTA V on PC with all the bells @ whistles @ 1080P is night and day over the PS4 version @ 1080P.

Just the frame-rate alone not being capped at 30fps, makes the PC version hands down better.

Yet still no driving game on PC that looks as good as Drive Club? Difference is games designed for PS4 will look a lot better than the above PC specs. GTA 5 was a remaster of a PS3 game, rather than designed from the ground up to run on XB1/PS4, its not even close to be one of the better looking/running games on the console.