this is my point.
PC gaming costs more when comparing directly comparable costs. Do you get your moneys worth from that extra cost ? hell yes.
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this is my point.
PC gaming costs more when comparing directly comparable costs. Do you get your moneys worth from that extra cost ? hell yes.
Use my own personal scenario? OK, bought a ps3 in 2010 for ~£260 with 1 game, plus extra controller for £40, so £300, over the subsequent 4 years bought a total of 18 games, some new, some preowned, but lets say an average of £20/game = ~£360, plus 2 years PS+ at £35/year, so a total of £300 + £360 + £70 = £730, I traded all my games in at the end, got about £80 in total for them, so, £650 for console gaming.
I got my current PC, a year and a half ago, second hand, for £150, add on £80 graphics card, £120 monitor, and £80 mouse and keyboard = £430.
I sold my old laptop, for... £60 I think it was.
Since then I've spent ~£100 on games, and have a steam library of about 80 games and about 20-30 physical discs.
So a total of £430 + £100 - £60 = £470 for pc gaming, and I have a better performing system with more games...
That's the whole point I was trying to make. People saying console gaming is always cheaper than PC gaming are wrong, it completely depends on the circumstances. Personally for me, PC gaming is both far cheaper, and far more enjoyable than console, when I got my PC, I was sorely tempted by a PS4 instead, but after working out the costs it was a no brainer really. Now I'm not by any means under the impression that is the case for everyone, but its a far bigger picture than just the initial hardware costs, and to try and disregard any other factors is disingenuous.
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Ah, ye ole pc vs console. I had enough with proper pc gaming over a year ago. (As I've said before) cod ghosts wouldn't even run on my pc when it first came out, was a nightmare. Wasn't my pc either, at that time I had an i7 + 7970. Origin was annoying too, would let me sign in on the website, but the program would throw up errors, so I could hardly play those games. Even when it did work bulletstorm for example would download, but wouldn't install - I even bought it twice!
Gameplay > Graphics.
While I'm a pc gamer at heart, pc's can sometimes be a massive headache. If you have the time to mess about and fix whatever problems then fine, but at the end of the day, if I've had a hard day at work, then the last thing I want to do is mess about trying to fix something - be it a game or the actual PC. Plus it's much easier to cheat on pc's, that got on my gears.
Consoles can be a headache too, but usually when they mess up, it's out of your hands. If it breaks, send it away and you'll get a new one.
Really, their is no right or wrong way to play. Just personal opinions.
Gameplay > Graphics.
While I'm a pc gamer at heart, pc's can sometimes be a massive headache. If you have the time to mess about and fix whatever problems then fine, but at the end of the day, if I've had a hard day at work, then the last thing I want to do is mess about trying to fix something - be it a game or the actual PC. Plus it's much easier to cheat on pc's, that got on my gears.
Consoles can be a headache too, but usually when they mess up, it's out of your hands. If it breaks, send it away and you'll get a new one.
Really, their is no right or wrong way to play. Just personal opinions.
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First of all he's using RRP in all of his figures. Who in the hell spends £40 on a PSN+ sub? I pay £25-£30 on average. I paid £20 for GTA V, yes you heard that right £20 not £50.
so on one end he's using sale prices for pc games RRP for consoles. completely biased tosh.
I buy maybe 5 games a year and all at dirt cheap prices. Destiny plus all DLC @ launch - £50 (RRP was like £90) but this is a special one off that I would spend so much on one game it's not the type of thing I would buy 5 times in a year.
The last of us - £8 or £9 can't remember it was that little
GTA V - £20 (disc version)
Fifa - £25 @ launch
Watch Dogs - £15 (disc version)
Drive Club - £10
I probably spend less than £100 on games in a year, probably around £100 a year after you factor in the PSN + sub.
So over 10 years a PS4 will cost me roughly £1300. I would need to spend that much on a PC just to run GTA V
so on one end he's using sale prices for pc games RRP for consoles. completely biased tosh.
I buy maybe 5 games a year and all at dirt cheap prices. Destiny plus all DLC @ launch - £50 (RRP was like £90) but this is a special one off that I would spend so much on one game it's not the type of thing I would buy 5 times in a year.
The last of us - £8 or £9 can't remember it was that little
GTA V - £20 (disc version)
Fifa - £25 @ launch
Watch Dogs - £15 (disc version)
Drive Club - £10
I probably spend less than £100 on games in a year, probably around £100 a year after you factor in the PSN + sub.
So over 10 years a PS4 will cost me roughly £1300. I would need to spend that much on a PC just to run GTA V
Well at least that last statement fully confirms that you don't have a clue what you're talking about
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CPU: Intel Core i5 3470 @ 3.2GHZ (4 CPUs) / AMD X8 FX-8350 @ 4GHZ (8 CPUs)
CPU Speed: Info
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 8.1 64 Bit, Windows 8 64 Bit, Windows 7 64 Bit Service Pack 1
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB / AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB
Sound Card: Yes
Free Disk Space: 65 GB
that is the recommended specs not what you need to max it out so a fair comparison - £340 for the CPU and GPU alone
maybe an exaggeration but it's going to cost a pretty penny to build a pc which runs GTA V to the same settings as a PS4
CPU Speed: Info
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 8.1 64 Bit, Windows 8 64 Bit, Windows 7 64 Bit Service Pack 1
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB / AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB
Sound Card: Yes
Free Disk Space: 65 GB
that is the recommended specs not what you need to max it out so a fair comparison - £340 for the CPU and GPU alone
maybe an exaggeration but it's going to cost a pretty penny to build a pc which runs GTA V to the same settings as a PS4
With all the money you spent on you ultra high quality bed and matress, that doesn't matter all that much does it?
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you spend 1/3rd of your life on a mattress, therefore you should spend more than £200 on one, the bed frame is personal choice it's just a frame so spend as much as you think is worth it.
i haven't slept on any bed as comfortable as mine (pocket sprung). anyone who thinks spending money on a quality mattress is a waste would be wrong
Cost doesn't denote quality.
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This is a never ending circle. For me, I got the Xbox One on release and bought every game I wanted for it on release day, costing me £50+ I had about 10 games, that's £500 just in games!! Admittedly my PC had a bigger outlay but now if I were to continue buying the games on Xbox that I have bought on PC since building it it would have cost a lot more.
And I can spend many hours on this forum and met you guys, couldn't have done that on Xbox
And I can spend many hours on this forum and met you guys, couldn't have done that on Xbox
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Was it new?
No I was using the going rate for console games from the majority of popular sources, and the same for PC titles. In essence I was using what the likes of Game, Amazon, PSN store etc charge for new console titles, and using what the likes of GMG, CDkeys, Amazon etc charge for new PC releases. Not biased, just reflective of the state of play.
Yes, and most PC gamers buy titles even cheaper in the steam sales or with GMG discounts. So as I have repeatedly said, the prices become relative. Oh, and with PC gams they are new and you get to keep them and not have to trade them in.
How many of those games were new sealed in the pack? How many were bought for below national average prices from the MM?
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What you mean in the same way you believe spending money on a quality PC is wrong when a PS4 does a good job for a fraction of the cost?
The point is, again, horses for courses. You may need an expensive mattress to get a good nights sleep. I may be perfectly happy with the mattress donated to me with the bedstead I bought off a family member for £75.
As long as we are both happy with the sleep we get who is to say which one of us is right?
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I bought my PC over 4 years ago and it's still running games at a decent level. Bought many cheap games in the steam sale and probably saved stacks of money in software. Console wise I also buy every console so my pc hardware was £1600 and in the last 4 years i've bought a PS3 PS4 X1 and a Vita, probably over a grand, console gaming aint that much cheaper 
With a lot of things it really can be as cheap or as expensive as you make it.
You can budget like mad or go crazy on both. Also why does it matter?
With a lot of things it really can be as cheap or as expensive as you make it.
You can budget like mad or go crazy on both. Also why does it matter?
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I bought my PC over 4 years ago and it's still running games at a decent level. Bought many cheap games in the steam sale and probably saved stacks of money in software. Console wise I also buy every console so my pc hardware was £1600 and in the last 4 years i've bought a PS3 PS4 X1 and a Vita, probably over a grand, console gaming aint that much cheaper
With a lot of things it really can be as cheap or as expensive as you make it.
You can budget like mad or go crazy on both. Also why does it matter?
Buying 4 consoles within 4 years isn't normal.
The average console buyer will have 1 console over a generation. On this forum though many buy 2 (enthusiasts) and this is the first time ever I have only bought 1.
I don't really count the vita as a console either. You could call my Z3 a console then as well (supports remote play).
I know people who all have a ps4 and buy 1 game every year for instance (fifa). So over a 10 year period their total cost would be all in £900. 1 x ps4, 10 x fifa, 10 x psn +
They will buy the odd one off game like GTA V but other than that nothing as they aren't big gamers but are football mad.
Some people though could easily play the one game over and over for 10 years on a pc as well with zero updates.
I for instance could spend £1000 on a pc then just play CS:go and war thunder (free to play) for 10 years and not bother with any other game. So my total cost would be roughly £1000 over 10 years.
I would say pc gaming has the higher initial outlay and cheaper games, but requires hardware upgrades over a console lifetime, consoles is just a far neater solution but doesn't have perks like mouse and keyboard for fps or dual screens, mods, etc, etc.
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Like the previous comment, I would confidently say most people will have both. The topic is nothing to do with cost.
No is the answer, unless it's not made for the console and pc exclusive.
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Really how come? I've always bought pretty much all the consoles as there is always exclusives I want.
The average console buyer only buys one? I know tons of people not considered hardcore and buy both over the course of a generation.
Nope, one is a handheld console. The other is a phone
It doesn't require that many upgrades and if you go on the MM here for instance you can get pre owned cards for relatively cheap prices.
Take a long lie down on your million pound mattress
If the PC you're talking about is the one listed on your signature then something is up with it, as that should be maxing GTA5 out no problem.